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18-03-2014, 10:06 AM
Objections Unique to Mormonism
Although Mormonism is technically a Christian religion, it has many features that are unique. Since I came out of Mormonism, my objections to religion in general apply in that context. Since my experience is somewhat unusual, I would like to share four objections that are unique to Mormonism.

1. Mormonism criminalizes sexual activity much more aggressively than other religions. It is stated explicitly in The Book of Mormon that sexual transgression is morally equivalent, or only slightly less serious than, murder. Coupled with a well enforced masturbation taboo, teenagers grow up under the impression that their natural desire is the moral equivalent of stabbing one of their friends too death. I leave it up to the imagination, or the memory as in my own case, to contemplate the shame and self condemnation and loathing that result.

2. Mormonism places a fanatical focus on personal worthiness and performance. If a member is not performing their duties or obeying the commandments of the church, there are very serious real world consequences. If one ignores the prohibition of alcohol, coffee, tea, unauthorized sex, or the payment of tithing, you endanger your permission to enter the Temple, and thus your chances of achieving heaven. Your eternal soul is literally at stake within each and every tiny decision. If you continue to make mistakes, and admit them to clergy, you may find yourself officially disciplined by "The High Council". Your membership privileges may be revoked temporarily, or you may simply be excommunicated.

3. Mormonism practices modern day divine revelation through "prophets". For example, in 1890 the prophet declared the end of the illegal practice of polygamy, under extreme duress and threat of destruction from the United States Government, and as a requirement to achieve statehood. In 1978 the prophet declared that all non-white males were now permitted to hold priesthood authority and perform sacred ordinances on behalf of god, a privilege denied to them previously. Fortunately god saw fit to furnish the prophet with this information immediately following the very successful Civil rights campaign in America.

4. Mormonism makes very serious demands on your time, money, and energy. There is much to be done for the cause or "The Work". Every member pays ten percent of their total earnings, but very few callings are paid occupations. In any local ward you will find a Bishop, his counselors, missionaries, musicians, etc that are unpaid for their many hours of work. Since they also pay tithing, we can conclude that they pay ten percent for the privilege of working their ass off.

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18-03-2014, 11:06 AM
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(18-03-2014 10:06 AM)Dark Phoenix Wrote:  3. Mormonism practices modern day divine revelation through "prophets". For example, in 1890 the prophet declared the end of the illegal practice of polygamy, under extreme duress and threat of destruction from the United States Government, and as a requirement to achieve statehood. In 1978 the prophet declared that all non-white males were now permitted to hold priesthood authority and perform sacred ordinances on behalf of god, a privilege denied to them previously. Fortunately god saw fit to furnish the prophet with this information immediately following the very successful Civil rights campaign in America.

I like how all these revelations always come after some outside, powerful compelling force forces their hand and never before. It's not like Mormom YHWH was able to predict the civil rights movement or anything. It's all reactionary.
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19-03-2014, 10:34 PM
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(18-03-2014 11:06 AM)RobbyPants Wrote:  
(18-03-2014 10:06 AM)Dark Phoenix Wrote:  3. Mormonism practices modern day divine revelation through "prophets". For example, in 1890 the prophet declared the end of the illegal practice of polygamy, under extreme duress and threat of destruction from the United States Government, and as a requirement to achieve statehood. In 1978 the prophet declared that all non-white males were now permitted to hold priesthood authority and perform sacred ordinances on behalf of god, a privilege denied to them previously. Fortunately god saw fit to furnish the prophet with this information immediately following the very successful Civil rights campaign in America.

I like how all these revelations always come after some outside, powerful compelling force forces their hand and never before. It's not like Mormom YHWH was able to predict the civil rights movement or anything. It's all reactionary.

Funny how they never get a revelation like "Hey! Get on that Higgs Boson shit, it's the future!" back in the 80's or "Hey! Black people are humans too!" before the Civil Rights movement.

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19-03-2014, 10:37 PM
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Phoe,
Did you wear the magic underwear?
TellmeTellmeTellme!!!!!!!!

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19-03-2014, 10:40 PM
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(19-03-2014 10:37 PM)Alex_Leonardo Wrote:  Phoe,
Did you wear the magic underwear?
TellmeTellmeTellme!!!!!!!!

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Sex sells. For the record, Utah is the largest consumer of porn in the United States. Laughat

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20-03-2014, 04:04 PM
RE: Objections Unique to Mormonism
(18-03-2014 10:06 AM)Dark Phoenix Wrote:  teenagers grow up under the impression that their natural desire is the moral equivalent of stabbing one of their friends too death. I leave it up to the imagination, or the memory as in my own case, to contemplate the shame and self condemnation and loathing that result.
LOL i imagine them to be like this [Image: 83134-must-not-fap-gif-Bruce-Campbel-p0iH.gif]
Quote:Fortunately god saw fit to furnish the prophet with this information immediately following the very successful Civil rights campaign in America.
lol that doesn't sound suspicious at all! Laugh out load

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Disproved statements&Illogical conclusions are not evidence
Logical fallacies&Unsubstantiated claims are not evidence
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Data that requires a certain belief is not evidence
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20-03-2014, 04:39 PM
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They don't let people drink coffee or tea? Blink Why?
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20-03-2014, 04:54 PM
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(20-03-2014 04:39 PM)CleverUsername Wrote:  They don't let people drink coffee or tea? Blink Why?

It's called the word of wisdom. There is a list of do's and don'ts, of which tea and coffee are listed in. In short, it's stimulants.

I only ever saw excommunication once DP. ... That was me! A few months after I told the Bishop what I thought and why I left. I saw a lot of sanctions enforced though. Like Priesthood authority and duties suspended. ... A common trend after sanctions was that people stopped turning up and became inactive.

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20-03-2014, 04:58 PM
RE: Objections Unique to Mormonism
(18-03-2014 10:06 AM)Dark Phoenix Wrote:  1. Mormonism criminalizes sexual activity much more aggressively than other religions. It is stated explicitly in The Book of Mormon that sexual transgression is morally equivalent, or only slightly less serious than, murder. Coupled with a well enforced masturbation taboo, teenagers grow up under the impression that their natural desire is the moral equivalent of stabbing one of their friends too death. I leave it up to the imagination, or the memory as in my own case, to contemplate the shame and self condemnation and loathing that result.
I have never understood the obsession religion has with masturbation. At least with abortion, for example, there is the claim of "murder" which, while I disagree, at least has some logic behind it. But what's with masturbation? Attention taken away from God (poor baby)? It makes no sense. I thought this issue was bad as a Catholic, but this sounds really miserable Dark Phoenix. Ohmy

(18-03-2014 10:06 AM)Dark Phoenix Wrote:  If one ignores the prohibition of alcohol, coffee, tea, unauthorized sex, or the payment of tithing, you endanger your permission to enter the Temple, and thus your chances of achieving heaven.
No coffee? Blink I'd never make it as a Mormon. No

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20-03-2014, 05:25 PM
RE: Objections Unique to Mormonism
I think it's kind of with number three but oh. my. god. The freakin' status of Joseph Smith Junior. I understand he's the founder of the church and whatnot but even as a member I thought his "image" was way overblown. Like you'd have the list of prophets and "WE CAN'T FORGET JOSEPH SMITH WHO DID MORE FOR THE GOSPEL THAN ANY MAN ALIVE WAM BAM HERE'S A PORTRIAT AND A STATUE EVERYWHERE EVERYWHERE WE SHALL PUT THIS GREAT MAN!!" I mean, he's a man. They try so hard to make him look perfect, like a god among men. But he's a guy. Even when I didn't know about his shenanigans I thought, "y'know, he's probably not so flawless. He's probably screwed up a few times in his life. Stop making him look like he's sinless, y'all. Plus your godly Joseph stuff makes it look like he's got a stick up his ass." And something that I was talking with my barber cousin about. He's the first prophet but the next seven prophets after him had beards. Interesting? Especially since they really push guys to be clean shaven now?

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