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28-03-2014, 06:59 PM
RE: Objective Morality
(28-03-2014 06:58 PM)Charis Wrote:  Ahhh, looks like DLC just provided 35 pages of discussion. Tongue

What's with the 'DLC' again?!?!?

Have you been drinking again?

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28-03-2014, 07:02 PM
RE: Objective Morality
Without god there can be no objective morality=there is no objective morality.
Objective morality is not a real thing...am I getting this right?

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28-03-2014, 07:02 PM
RE: Objective Morality
OK. In response to the question...

I think it is a well written piece. A few slightly clumsy sentences but the flow is generally readable.

Good job.

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28-03-2014, 07:06 PM
RE: Objective Morality
(28-03-2014 06:59 PM)DLJ Wrote:  
(28-03-2014 06:58 PM)Charis Wrote:  Ahhh, looks like DLC just provided 35 pages of discussion. Tongue

What's with the 'DLC' again?!?!?

Have you been drinking again?

Dodgy

Not this time. Just tired. Tongue
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28-03-2014, 07:11 PM
RE: Objective Morality
(28-03-2014 06:44 PM)TheThinkingChristian Wrote:  
(28-03-2014 06:43 PM)Lightvader Wrote:  I stopped at "Without god neither objective or subjective morality exists"

Eh... I'd be happy to hear why that isn't true...

It isn't true, because there is no "god". Considering, regardless of whether there is objective or subjective morality, one or the other exist, and "god" does not, there for objective or subjective morality can only exist without "god".

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28-03-2014, 07:23 PM (This post was last modified: 28-03-2014 07:27 PM by Charis.)
RE: Objective Morality
TTC, can I ask a favor? This is going to sound kind of strange, I'm just warning you.

I'm wanting to discuss your article with you paragraph by paragraph and as a whole, but I'm not all that good at the whole debating scene just yet. You seem gentle enough that I could "practice" on you, as it were, and with you I don't think I would need to feel afraid that I would have to "toughen up" and get mean just to survive a bunch of sleight-of-hands like we see with a bunch of other Theists (I'm very sorry, but when you see some of the other things that come through here, you'll understand).

It would be just more of a back-and-forth discussion than a debate. More exploring the Hows and Whys and what-ifs, etc.

From what I can see, it's very probable that you would clobber me in any sort of debating scenario, simply because I am not very practiced.

I might even end by prematurely (and yes, immaturely) throwing my hands up from getting overwhelmed, I dunno. lol
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28-03-2014, 07:59 PM
RE: Objective Morality
(28-03-2014 07:23 PM)Charis Wrote:  TTC, can I ask a favor? This is going to sound kind of strange, I'm just warning you.

I'm wanting to discuss your article with you paragraph by paragraph and as a whole, but I'm not all that good at the whole debating scene just yet. You seem gentle enough that I could "practice" on you, as it were, and with you I don't think I would need to feel afraid that I would have to "toughen up" and get mean just to survive a bunch of sleight-of-hands like we see with a bunch of other Theists (I'm very sorry, but when you see some of the other things that come through here, you'll understand).

It would be just more of a back-and-forth discussion than a debate. More exploring the Hows and Whys and what-ifs, etc.

From what I can see, it's very probable that you would clobber me in any sort of debating scenario, simply because I am not very practiced.

I might even end by prematurely (and yes, immaturely) throwing my hands up from getting overwhelmed, I dunno. lol

I give you permission. Discuss paragraph for paragraph on.

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28-03-2014, 08:03 PM
RE: Objective Morality
A bunch of ignorant, presuppositional bullshit.

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28-03-2014, 08:12 PM
RE: Objective Morality
(28-03-2014 06:33 PM)TheThinkingChristian Wrote:  I'm not sure if this is in the right area, but I figured it would fit here.

A while back I wrote an article titled "What Is This Objective Morality That You Speak Of?"

It has been posted on InfoBarrel, a popular site that anyone can write for and make money, and I am wondering if any here would be interested in reading it. The URL is below!

Now, I'm not posting it here to get more views, I don't care much about that. What I am really interested in is opinions of my writing. Now keep in mind, this is pretty much the first thing I've ever written regarding theism and such, so please be gentle ^_^.

But serioulsy, if you would like to read it and post here what you thought of it I would be grateful. There is also an interesting conversation in the comment section of that article, but I'd prefer if you keep your comments here just to make it easier on me.

Now, as I've said before, I won't reply to rude or disrespectful comments. I simply want to know if you think it is a decent argument or a bad one and if it actually holds any water. Thanks!

Here is the URL: http://www.infobarrel.com/What_Is_This_O...u_Speak_Of

Since it is your article, you could have summerised it.

Debates start with actual arguments and not with a wall of endless text!

And if you dont like rude attitudes, grow up! This is not a kindergarten!!!

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28-03-2014, 08:14 PM
RE: Objective Morality
(28-03-2014 06:44 PM)TheThinkingChristian Wrote:  
(28-03-2014 06:43 PM)Lightvader Wrote:  I stopped at "Without god neither objective or subjective morality exists"

Eh... I'd be happy to hear why that isn't true. Like I said, it's the first thing I wrote. And it was a while back... Actually, I suppose subjective morality would exist huh? Thanks for pointing that out! I still don't believe there can be objective morality without God though.

Because it's a bullshit unsupported assertion-by-fiat.

Billions of Buddhists, Hindus, atheists and others who don't believe in your fairy tale monster have far higher moral standards than all of you xtards put together.

There's no such thing as "objective" morality.The phrase is meaningless word salad.

And xtardianity's blood-drenched track record puts the lie to any claim that it holds any sort of moral high ground whatsoever.

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