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12-10-2011, 01:32 PM
RE: Occupy Everything
Anyone have any comments on these words that come to my mind. They are words we will grapple with in this struggle whether we like it or not. They aren't in any particular order:

Anger
Compromise
what's right
what's best
what's necessary
giving up
being vigilant
No compromise
Complacency
Short term
Long term
Ends justify the means
Means justify the ends
In their face
In the background
Order
Disorder
Win
Loose
Draw

For the record, I am for the protests. It is not the end, it's not the solution, It's a voice. Without starting with a voice there is no future for a solution to a just cause... but if that's all there is, we're sunk.

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12-10-2011, 09:04 PM (This post was last modified: 12-10-2011 09:11 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Occupy Everything
Let's show that we can properly occupy Earth first.

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12-10-2011, 09:31 PM (This post was last modified: 12-10-2011 09:43 PM by Peterkin.)
RE: Occupy Everything
(12-10-2011 09:04 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Let's show that we can properly occupy Earth first.

I don't know what that means.

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12-10-2011, 09:57 PM
RE: Occupy Everything
(12-10-2011 09:31 PM)Peterkin Wrote:  
(12-10-2011 09:04 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Let's show that we can properly occupy Earth first.

I don't know what that means.

Let's make sure we can properly manage our shit here before thinking about managing our shit elsewhere.

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12-10-2011, 10:14 PM
RE: Occupy Everything
Where else?
All these people want is for the mega-rich to stop bleeding them dry. They don't manage anything - they are managed.

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13-10-2011, 11:46 AM
RE: Occupy Everything
(12-10-2011 09:57 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Let's make sure we can properly manage our shit here before thinking about managing our shit elsewhere.

The thing is "shit" aint being managed very well is it??? Corporations are smashing the enviroment up in a multitude of ways.....for what???

We have people suffering from job losses....losing there homes....getting desperate and when they turn to the goverment there is little help (over here in the UK anyway)

Banks got greedy and careless with Fractional Reserve Banking..........they lent out that much money (that they create out of nothing) that it all collapsed.

I myself am not happy with paying Tax money towards bailing them out.....Not when they use that Tax Money to pay themselves huge bonuses.......im also not happy with the quantitive easing.......that is simply papering over the cracks of a F*cked up system and also devalueing the money that is currently in circulation.....making it harder for me and others to live day by day.

If I became ruler of this planet I would phase out all central banks.......I wouldnt let private sharholders of these "ponzi schemes" profit from putting interest onto the goverment for money that they themselves should be printing.

I went on a demo in my town center today with a group called UK UNCUT http://www.ukuncut.org.uk/ we basicly handed out flyers explaing the situation. I asked every single person "who do we owe all this money too???" and do you know how many people knew???

Zero.

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13-10-2011, 02:26 PM
RE: Occupy Everything
My favourite thing is how guys who do nothing but transfer other people's money from one imaginary pocket to another call themselves "the producers" who shouldn't be taxed.

The fact that not one of them has been hit by lightning is sufficient proof of the non-existence of god.

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13-10-2011, 07:12 PM
RE: Occupy Everything
(12-10-2011 09:31 PM)Peterkin Wrote:  
(12-10-2011 09:04 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Let's show that we can properly occupy Earth first.

I don't know what that means.

Me neither. Sounds like the rant of someone well into a fifth of vodka confusing this thread with Spaceship TTA. Just into a pint tonight, so maybe I'll make more sense.

(13-10-2011 11:46 AM)bemore Wrote:  
(12-10-2011 09:57 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  Let's make sure we can properly manage our shit here before thinking about managing our shit elsewhere.

The thing is "shit" aint being managed very well is it??? Corporations are smashing the enviroment up in a multitude of ways.....for what???

We have people suffering from job losses....losing there homes....getting desperate and when they turn to the goverment there is little help (over here in the UK anyway)

Same here in the US. But the only thing worth occupying is our respective legislatures which control our collective purse strings. I sincerely hope that Occupy Wall Street results in unprecedented voter turnout. They have the numbers (99%) but they have to get out the vote or it will all be for naught. And this is from a lifelong registered Republican who has been driven out of his party of 30 years by its coddling to bigoted, racist intolerant Teabagger assholes.

(13-10-2011 11:46 AM)bemore Wrote:  I asked every single person "who do we owe all this money too???" and do you know how many people knew???

Zero.

That's easy for us in the US. It's China.

(13-10-2011 02:26 PM)Peterkin Wrote:  My favourite thing is how guys who do nothing but transfer other people's money from one imaginary pocket to another call themselves "the producers" who shouldn't be taxed.

Most of them don't feel that way. Warren Buffett being the most notable and outspoken of them. There are only a few (like the fucking "I'm King of the World" Koch brothers) who deserve to be struck down by lightning.

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13-10-2011, 08:00 PM
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Yabbut, according to FUX news, Buffet is a raging socialist who has declared class warfare.
I vaguely recall when words had meaning... sigh!
I don't think this is going to affect the voter turnout very much, because an awful lot of the invisible, inaudible people have already given up on the electoral system. The ones who came out last time were badly let down. Who is there left to vote for?

Have one for me, GirlyMan. Cheers!

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13-10-2011, 08:44 PM (This post was last modified: 13-10-2011 08:51 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Occupy Everything
(13-10-2011 08:00 PM)Peterkin Wrote:  Have one for me, GirlyMan. Cheers!

Done! Had three for you Peterkin.

(13-10-2011 08:00 PM)Peterkin Wrote:  Yabbut, according to FUX news, Buffet is a raging socialist who has declared class warfare.

Yeah, the canonical example of the most successful capitalist ever is suddenly now a raging socialist. Go figure.

(13-10-2011 08:00 PM)Peterkin Wrote:  I vaguely recall when words had meaning... sigh!
I don't think this is going to affect the voter turnout very much, because an awful lot of the invisible, inaudible people have already given up on the electoral system. The ones who came out last time were badly let down. Who is there left to vote for?

They are not only relying on that defeatist attitude, they are actively trying to promote it. Goddam fucking bastards.

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I will show you fear in a handful of dust.
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