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15-06-2013, 09:44 AM
RE: Odd question for flood believers
(14-06-2013 11:35 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  there is not a shred of "geological upheaval" or flood,

There is evidence of a flood. Most geologists don't recognize it because they believe the earth is millions of years old and they interpret the evidence to conform to their beliefs. You can find some of the evidence here:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...s-part-one

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...gger-flood

http://www.worldwideflood.com/default.htm

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15-06-2013, 09:55 AM
RE: Odd question for flood believers
(15-06-2013 09:44 AM)theophilus Wrote:  
(14-06-2013 11:35 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  there is not a shred of "geological upheaval" or flood,

There is evidence of a flood. Most geologists don't recognize it because they believe the earth is millions of years old and they interpret the evidence to conform to their beliefs. You can find some of the evidence here:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...s-part-one

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...gger-flood

http://www.worldwideflood.com/default.htm

Those sites are hilarious. You don't understand what constitutes evidence.

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15-06-2013, 10:22 AM
RE: Odd question for flood believers
(15-06-2013 09:44 AM)theophilus Wrote:  
(14-06-2013 11:35 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  there is not a shred of "geological upheaval" or flood,

There is evidence of a flood. Most geologists don't recognize it because they believe the earth is millions of years old and they interpret the evidence to conform to their beliefs.

No, most geologists don't recognize it because they are actual scientists who rely on and gather actual facts to build and test hypotheses. Drinking Beverage What are you, an eight year old?

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17-06-2013, 08:22 AM
RE: Odd question for flood believers
Oh dear. Did he just post AIG as a source? He hasn't been here long has he?

Anyway, thanks everyone for the replies. I threw it out to my buddy on Friday. I've been shotgunning him with strange stuff like this lately just to see how he would answer. He is more of a William Lane Craig type, so I decided to go a different rout with him. When we get into serious discussions he bring up various authors and books. So I decided to throw an old "Fundie Quote" at him. I told him that we need to put "mans books down and look at what God's book says..." He spends a great deal of time arguing with Calvinists as well, so I just asked him about how the world was going to end. He seemed a bit embarrassed and eventually said it would be at the White Thrown Judgement. I brought up Rev. 20:12-15 and asked him who's names were there? God obviously knows if he knows everything. John saw this happening, and the names were there. He stuttered around and started in on free will and quoting other commentators. I fell back on another fundie favorite with, "You're not arguing with me, you're arguing with the Word of God." Mind you, I'm not trying to confuse him for the sake of confusing him or winning an argument but I'm trying to get him out of his comfort zone and to look at his own belief critically. I've noticed that he does seem to avoid discussing the bible and what it says on its own, but relies on what apologists say it says.

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17-06-2013, 08:32 AM
RE: Odd question for flood believers
(14-06-2013 10:57 AM)theophilus Wrote:  
(13-06-2013 10:52 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  All massive floods have silt layers.
There is no world-wide silt layer. Anywhere.
There is not even a local silt layer in the Near East.
This wasn't just a flood. There was a geological upheaval that changed the entire topography of the word. The flood was just one stage of this event during which the world was covered by water.

http://clydeherrin.wordpress.com/2012/01...-water-go/

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But we need to also consider the sign of the covenant; God set a rainbow in the clouds. This speaks of the rainbow as being something new that hadn’t existed before. This means that before the flood atmospheric conditions were very different from what they are today and rainbows never appeared. A change like this couldn’t possible be local but must be worldwide.

Yes, yes! Before this the sun didn't exsit and rain didn't fall from clouds...Weeping

Shit like this makes you and the people who wrote it laughing stocks (and I'm being as polite as I can be). Laughat

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17-06-2013, 08:39 AM
RE: Odd question for flood believers
(15-06-2013 09:44 AM)theophilus Wrote:  
(14-06-2013 11:35 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  there is not a shred of "geological upheaval" or flood,

There is evidence of a flood. Most geologists don't recognize it because they believe the earth is millions of years old and they interpret the evidence to conform to their beliefs. You can find some of the evidence here:

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...s-part-one

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...gger-flood

http://www.worldwideflood.com/default.htm

Oh Clyde Sadcryface I went to your blog site... http://clydeherrin.wordpress.com/purpose-of-this-blog/

From the way you write I have to assume that being asked if you are an eight year old is relevant (thanks Kim). How old are you exactly before I unleash the full power of observation on you?

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17-06-2013, 09:33 AM
RE: Odd question for flood believers
Full Circle quoted: "But we need to also consider the sign of the covenant; God set a rainbow in the clouds. This speaks of the rainbow as being something new that hadn’t existed before. This means that before the flood atmospheric conditions were very different from what they are today and rainbows never appeared. A change like this couldn’t possible be local but must be worldwide."

This is interesting. Back when I was a fundie it was actually taught that before "the flood" it had never rained on earth. They believed that dew watered all the plant life on the planet.

"Now I don't want to be sane either, but I'm just saying there may be other delusions and hallucinations worthy of consideration before jumping to an irrational conclusion, that's all."
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18-06-2013, 08:55 AM
RE: Odd question for flood believers
(17-06-2013 09:33 AM)Fisty_McBeefpunch Wrote:  Back when I was a fundie it was actually taught that before "the flood" it had never rained on earth. They believed that dew watered all the plant life on the planet.

Well, that's fucking retarded. They didn't think it rained - EVER? That doesn't make sense... and according to their own fucking rulebook, that's not even accurate - it's in the first fucking book, second chapter! Genesis (2:5–6) states: LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. It even detailed condensation that provides rain.

Good thing Fisty Punch and the fundie bunch ended up not seeing eye to eye. Thumbsup

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18-06-2013, 04:50 PM
RE: Odd question for flood believers
lol AiG

This pic sums up AiG.

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22-06-2013, 02:04 PM
RE: Odd question for flood believers
(18-06-2013 04:50 PM)kingschosen Wrote:  lol AiG

This pic sums up AiG.

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Are you sure AIG contributors are allowed to handle sharp objects?

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