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08-07-2012, 07:54 AM (This post was last modified: 08-07-2012 08:04 AM by bemore.)
RE: Official Cannabis Thread
(08-07-2012 07:20 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  I wonder, does the guy on the ground with the microphone trying to talk the person off the ledge have any personal experience plummeting to his death to know it's bad for you?

No but I imagine it could be his job..... so in seeing things like this before...... he knows it a detrimental thing.

Let me flip this question and logic and poor analogy onto you EM....... How do YOU know that jumping off a ledge will kill you.

(08-07-2012 07:20 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  Oh no, someone said smoking weed was bad. Your life is so hard.

Come on dude FFS Rolleyes

Are you in your twenties or are you in your teens....... caus that is a childish reply

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08-07-2012, 01:37 PM
RE: Official Cannabis Thread
Confessions of a former anti-drug
idiot.

Up until Arnold made a comment about
opening the discussion to cannabis I was pretty hard nosed about
drugs. I had been at a high school and being an artist in my own
right, I had started to see the people around me use drugs. I found
it fascinating and scary at the same time. (Scary, I latter realized
was because of the prohibition.) I had been told nonsense like
smoking one joint is equal to smoking a pack of cigarettes. (This
pisses me off as well because I decided, because of that info that
smoking cigarettes was OK. Funny how that little piece of info worked
to help get me smoking. I did manage to quit from a 2 pack a day
habit with the help of snus, but that is a different story.) To make
the story shorter, (I can go longer if anyone cares) I just bought
what the government told me and didn't give it too much thought after
that. I saw that they gave evidence of brain damage and what not. I
didn't question it at all, it came from the government and they know
what they are doing right? My service in the military was probably
when I was the most hard nosed about drugs. There didn't seem to be
any reason for me to question anything more about it.

I have been an atheist all of my life,
the early experiences with religion never took hold of me. The
question became irrelevant because there is no way to form a real
question to get an answer to it. So the question of a supreme being
even one as vast as the universe becomes completely irrelevant.
Anyways, this habit means I have a tendency to question things. (when
given a reason too.) I had some superstitious thoughts from time to
time, but they went away with research. Now most of my life I had
been of the opinion that people can do what they want as long as they
don't hurt others. At the time drugs seemed to conflict with that
point of view. Health risks deranged behavior and what not. So
possibilities of others being harmed went up. So my opinion for so
many years was that as long as the drugs were not around me and no
one got hurt then I don't care. Then Arnold brings up the question
and it had caught me at a time when I was trying to figure out what
happened to my country. (I was focused on school and I did not give
the news much thought or attention while I was at collage. Scary to
learn that right wing nuts destroyed your country in just a decade.)
So I decided to recheck what I knew about marijuana. (or thought I
knew.)


Using the advice of James Randi about
being skeptical about information, I began to go back over all of the
studies again. What did I find? Well the study of brain damage turned
out to just be a study on suffocation. (By the way, just an F.Y.I.,
it is not really necessary to hold smoke in for a long time. It can
be smoked similar to a cigarette and provides the same effects. Also
vapo is really the better way to go. Wink ) Anyways, the more I
researched the more I learned the truth and even some of the finer
points. Thanks to Penn and Teller, they finally got it thru my thick
skull that the problem with drugs regardless about whether or not you
think it is a good idea or not is that the biggest problems come form
the prohibition. Honestly that perspective changed my point of view
on all of it. From drugs to prostitution it is the prohibition that
causes the real problems regardless about how you personally feel
about the issue.


Fundamentally when it comes right down
too it, all of us are choosing to find more truth to our world views.
I think it is important to challenge yourself. My military
experiences taught me a lot about the government and its priorities.
For one money is the only thing that the politicians care about. When
they say the support the military they are talking about equipment
and NOT soldiers. They do not care about people. Secrets are
bullshit, all of it. They just do not want the general public to know
what they are doing. Contractors are mercenaries, they help no one.
People that think the government is doing good with the crumbs it
leaves the general public need to educate themselves. (That includes
the really rich, not all but most.) Let me put it this way, the
recent storms that knocked out the power for days, think about it,
that was a thunderstorm and that's it. I have seen a lot of weather
and a thunderstorm, even a bad one is not that bad. They are letting
our country rot, this should have never happened, we are living in
the 21st century. Listen to science radio and read its
news, we can be much better then this. It does not matter what side
they are be it democrats or republicans, because there is only one
side, the side of money. Citizens united really fucked things up. Yes
it started earlier then that but right now it is really bad.


The drug issue is a good example of
all the things that we should all see eye to eye on. Think about it
this way. How does heroin come into the united states when it comes
from Afghanistan? Why is our government in gross violation of the
Geneva conventions and human rights violations even within the united
states? I know that most Americans think they are the “good guys”,
that hasn't been true for a very long time. Our whole planet is
filled with this nonsense. It is far past time for us to wake up.
Don't think it applies to you? We all live in this universe and we
are all made up of the same things. We should be focused on how to
make this planet a better place to live for all of its creatures and
keep balance when necessary. Educate yourselves if you don't believe
me. Think about it and challenge your own beliefs especially if they
infringe on other peoples lives and rights. Don't like something?
Don't do it. Sorry about the long rant but I thought that maybe some
people would find the perspective interesting. Thank you for taking
the time.

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08-07-2012, 01:58 PM
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Hey folks, labmonsters post looks long, but it's worth the read. Don't be so fuckin lazy. Go. Read it. Why are you still reading this post?? Go read the one above. Now.


Lol, thanks labmonster, good post!

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08-07-2012, 04:12 PM
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(08-07-2012 01:58 PM)Stark Raving Wrote:  Hey folks, labmonsters post looks long, but it's worth the read. Don't be so fuckin lazy. Go. Read it. Why are you still reading this post?? Go read the one above. Now.


Lol, thanks labmonster, good post!
Thank you very much stark raving, I truly appreciate it.

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08-07-2012, 04:22 PM
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Lab, I can relate to buying into the anti-drug nonsense for most of my life too. Of course, the prohibition also was caused by religion, so in that, I guess we differ. But when I left the church I began seeing a lot of things differently from the way The Establishment wants us to see them...Pot included. Thumbsup

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08-07-2012, 05:03 PM
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Penalty hoots for everyone!

2 each, except for Erx and Rora. You two can each take three.

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08-07-2012, 05:08 PM
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(08-07-2012 05:03 PM)Stark Raving Wrote:  Penalty hoots for everyone!

2 each, except for Erx and Rora. You two can each take three.
Hey, why am I getting penalty hoots? Dodgy (not that I'm complaining Big Grin but I read Lab's post)

I can understand why you'd give them to Erx hehe

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08-07-2012, 05:10 PM
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(08-07-2012 05:08 PM)aurora Wrote:  
(08-07-2012 05:03 PM)Stark Raving Wrote:  Penalty hoots for everyone!

2 each, except for Erx and Rora. You two can each take three.
Hey, why am I getting penalty hoots? Dodgy (not that I'm complaining Big Grin but I read Lab's post)

I can understand why you'd give them to Erx hehe
It is not for you to question the motives of the all mighty pot lord. Just do your hoots and quit yer bitchin.

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08-07-2012, 05:13 PM
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I'm smoking a hybrid called "Smelliott". If I take 3 hoots I won't be able to finish my yardwork...but I'll do one now and the rest later!

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08-07-2012, 05:14 PM
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(08-07-2012 05:10 PM)Stark Raving Wrote:  
(08-07-2012 05:08 PM)aurora Wrote:  Hey, why am I getting penalty hoots? Dodgy (not that I'm complaining Big Grin but I read Lab's post)

I can understand why you'd give them to Erx hehe
It is not for you to question the motives of the all mighty pot lord. Just do your hoots and quit yer bitchin.
Love ya but you're still a bastard! Yes

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