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25-07-2017, 11:34 AM
RE: Oh what a tangled web we weave
(25-07-2017 11:31 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  
(25-07-2017 11:19 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Only hardcore lefties (and their media overlords) are buying this Russian collusion story.

Trump seems awfully worried about it, though. If it's just wishful thinking by the Democrats, what's he so scared of?

Is he afraid? Or pissed that the constant media coverage is hampering his ability to get things done?

"Evil will always triumph over good, because good is dumb." - Lord Dark Helmet
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25-07-2017, 11:48 AM (This post was last modified: 25-07-2017 11:51 AM by Grasshopper.)
RE: Oh what a tangled web we weave
(25-07-2017 11:34 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(25-07-2017 11:31 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  Trump seems awfully worried about it, though. If it's just wishful thinking by the Democrats, what's he so scared of?

Is he afraid? Or pissed that the constant media coverage is hampering his ability to get things done?

That is seriously the lamest excuse I've ever heard you make. It's the media's fault that he isn't getting anything done? Awww, poor baby...
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25-07-2017, 11:51 AM
RE: Oh what a tangled web we weave
(25-07-2017 11:19 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(25-07-2017 10:00 AM)dancefortwo Wrote:  Let's not let the trump pot boil over. It needs to simmer until the 2018 mid term elections. Hopefully by then people will be so damned sick of the republicans that they'll vote half the Republican senators and congressmen and women out of office.

Let's keep the temperature on low and slow. It's all about leverage. It will be a very different battle if Pence is in office. It will change EVERYTHING and not in a good way.

Trump is the president everyone loves to hate. Let's hate him for another year and a half, till the midterms. Then shove the bastard out!

The thing is, only about 40% of people believe the Trump campaign was directly involved in collusion with the Russian government (according to a WaPo/ABC poll out the other day). Considering only 23% of the people polled were republicans (the rest were democrats and independents) this should give pause to democrats. If only 40% of a pool of mostly democrats and independents buy the Russian story, this isn't helping democrats as we head into the midterm races. It's actually hurting them. We've seen a huge shift in independent voters and their trust of the media. The latest NPR/PBS poll showed only 28% of independents trust the media, down from 67% a year ago.

Add to that the DNC has the fewest donations in years, outpaced by to the RNC almost 3 to 1 over the last 3 months. You can see where this is headed. Unless a real bombshell gets dropped, democrats are a sinking ship. Hell, I just saw that KID ROCK is up 4 points over the sitting democrat senator in michigan in a new poll. Kid fucking rock.

Only hardcore lefties (and their media overlords) are buying this Russian collusion story. And its going to bite you all on the ass in 2018 and 2020.

Unless it's something "else", and the real issues are disclosed ... the financial shenanigans with corrupt Russian oligarchs. Sure the Russians wanted him elected, but there are 100 billion dollars in the ground of their oil they want to sell, and the sanctions DID hurt the Russian economy. He IS hiding something, far more important than election shit.
https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/24/in...-evidence/

There is no possible way at this point you can predict how this will fall for 2020 or 2018, for that matter. In fact, what may be MORE important is a possible SCOTUS decision against gerrymandering.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/19/politics/s...mandering/

Nothing can "bite" anyone on the ass, any more than the insane old fool YOUR party gave the US in 2016. For 7 years your fucking party said they wanted to repeal and replace the ACA. Now we see they had nothing, and have NOTHING, and it was all lies and a sham. So far Dumpy has passed NO important legislation. None. He's too busy watching TV and tweeting his sad big ass off.

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein God has a plan for us. Please stop screwing it up with your prayers.
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25-07-2017, 11:54 AM (This post was last modified: 25-07-2017 11:58 AM by epronovost.)
RE: Oh what a tangled web we weave
(25-07-2017 11:34 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(25-07-2017 11:31 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  Trump seems awfully worried about it, though. If it's just wishful thinking by the Democrats, what's he so scared of?

Is he afraid? Or pissed that the constant media coverage is hampering his ability to get things done?

Or he is playing the buffoon to occupy the media while he sign various executive orders, support and design laws that affect various policies from weakenning the social net, environmental protections, protection against nepotism and conflict of interests, imposing harsher sentence on prisonners and important changes on the economical and fiscal structure of the US governement all which might have desastrous consequences. Talking about those decisions, sniffing out what might go wrong (and what's their medium to long term objective) with those moves is a hell of a lot harmfull to his administration agenda than managing to prove a relatively thin and circumstantial link between Putin and Trump governement.

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25-07-2017, 11:58 AM
RE: Oh what a tangled web we weave
(25-07-2017 11:54 AM)epronovost Wrote:  
(25-07-2017 11:34 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Is he afraid? Or pissed that the constant media coverage is hampering his ability to get things done?

Or is he playing the buffoon to occupy the media while he sign various executive orders, support and design laws that affect various policies from weakenning the social net, environmental protections, protection against nepotism and conflict of interests, imposing harsher sentence on prisonners and important changes on the economical and fiscal structure of the US governement all which might have desastrous consequences. Talking about those decisions, sniffing out what might go wrong (and what's their medium to long term objective) with those moves is a hell of a lot harmfull to his administration agenda than managing to prove a relatively thin and circomstancial link between Putin and Trump governement.

Now you're onto something.

While the media constantly talks about Trump, the elected democrats do the same. "Trump sucks" is their brand. The same poll I talked about above said a majority of people believe the democrats stand against Trump, instead of having a true plan. That's not going to win elections. And probably why the republicans are getting all of the donations right now.

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25-07-2017, 12:04 PM
RE: Oh what a tangled web we weave
(25-07-2017 11:19 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Only hardcore lefties (and their media overlords) are buying this Russian collusion story.

If by "hardcore lefties" you mean every single intelligence agency - which are HARDLY a hotbed of liberal ideology.
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25-07-2017, 12:08 PM (This post was last modified: 25-07-2017 01:04 PM by dancefortwo.)
RE: Oh what a tangled web we weave
(25-07-2017 11:34 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(25-07-2017 11:31 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  Trump seems awfully worried about it, though. If it's just wishful thinking by the Democrats, what's he so scared of?

Is he afraid? Or pissed that the constant media coverage is hampering his ability to get things done?

Ability? WHAT ability!? Even the Republicans think he's crazy, as caught on this hot mike.

Republican Collins says at one point...“I don’t think he knows there is a [Budget Control Act] or anything,”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/poli...cfbd68f203

Holy cow LDH, you can't seem to unsuction his dick from your mouth. It's like... stuck there. Lol

Shakespeare's Comedy of Errors.... on Donald J. Trump:

He is deformed, crooked, old, and sere,
Ill-fac’d, worse bodied, shapeless every where;
Vicious, ungentle, foolish, blunt, unkind,
Stigmatical in making, worse in mind.
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25-07-2017, 12:09 PM (This post was last modified: 25-07-2017 12:16 PM by Lord Dark Helmet.)
RE: Oh what a tangled web we weave
(25-07-2017 12:04 PM)Mr. Boston Wrote:  
(25-07-2017 11:19 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  Only hardcore lefties (and their media overlords) are buying this Russian collusion story.

If by "hardcore lefties" you mean every single intelligence agency - which are HARDLY a hotbed of liberal ideology.

You're confusing "collusion" with "interference." You can have one without the other. Most Americans believe the Russians attempted to influence the election (interference). Most Americans also believe Trump didn't help them (collusion).

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25-07-2017, 12:27 PM
RE: Oh what a tangled web we weave
(25-07-2017 11:34 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(25-07-2017 11:31 AM)Grasshopper Wrote:  Trump seems awfully worried about it, though. If it's just wishful thinking by the Democrats, what's he so scared of?

Is he afraid? Or pissed that the constant media coverage is hampering his ability to get things done?

Laughat

You're playing with us, right? His ability to get things done?

Statement not in evidence. /enddiscussion
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25-07-2017, 01:02 PM
RE: Oh what a tangled web we weave
(25-07-2017 11:19 AM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  
(25-07-2017 10:00 AM)dancefortwo Wrote:  Let's not let the trump pot boil over. It needs to simmer until the 2018 mid term elections. Hopefully by then people will be so damned sick of the republicans that they'll vote half the Republican senators and congressmen and women out of office.

Let's keep the temperature on low and slow. It's all about leverage. It will be a very different battle if Pence is in office. It will change EVERYTHING and not in a good way.

Trump is the president everyone loves to hate. Let's hate him for another year and a half, till the midterms. Then shove the bastard out!

The thing is, only about 40% of people believe the Trump campaign was directly involved in collusion with the Russian government (according to a WaPo/ABC poll out the other day). Considering only 23% of the people polled were republicans (the rest were democrats and independents) this should give pause to democrats. If only 40% of a pool of mostly democrats and independents buy the Russian story, this isn't helping democrats as we head into the midterm races. It's actually hurting them. We've seen a huge shift in independent voters and their trust of the media. The latest NPR/PBS poll showed only 28% of independents trust the media, down from 67% a year ago.

Add to that the DNC has the fewest donations in years, outpaced by to the RNC almost 3 to 1 over the last 3 months. You can see where this is headed. Unless a real bombshell gets dropped, democrats are a sinking ship. Hell, I just saw that KID ROCK is up 4 points over the sitting democrat senator in michigan in a new poll. Kid fucking rock.

Only hardcore lefties (and their media overlords) are buying this Russian collusion story. And its going to bite you all on the ass in 2018 and 2020.

Indeed, because of course he's perfect and can do no wrong, Jesus I've not seen so much delusion in years. Laugh out load
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