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02-06-2014, 08:49 PM
Ok, so there is a creator...
Lets just assume it for the heck of it - there is a creator.

But why should it follow that s/he is a "god"?

Maybe there is some creature like the spaghetti monster out there, and it farted, and that was the big bang.

Would that make it a god?

Why do people keep assuming that, if there was a creator, that it was a god?

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02-06-2014, 08:54 PM
RE: Ok, so there is a creator...
Because that is the accidental popular view. It. Could really be one thousand deities that created all.

Polytheism at least make more sense of the contradictions and senseless issues in the universe. Mono theists have to bend over backwards to explain the psychotic and bipolar deity that could've ended up making everything.

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02-06-2014, 09:05 PM
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"Because [insert preferred holy book here]!!!!!! Hobo "

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02-06-2014, 09:10 PM
RE: Ok, so there is a creator...
First you have to define what you mean by "god." If you simply mean the one who created the universe and there is a creator of the universe then the word simply means that. But if you mean a supernatural superhuman entity then there is nothing to support that claim. It is an even further leap to assume that this being is still involved in the universe or is intimately involved in the daily lives of humans living on one imperceptible spec in said universe for only the briefest instant. To make the leap to a specific deity is ludicrous.
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02-06-2014, 09:11 PM
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I seem to recall Dawkins getting stuck in pseudo gotcha moment by Ben Stein in that documentary about ID.

Stein got Dawkins to say the god or aliens could have "created" the universe or something like that.


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02-06-2014, 09:11 PM
RE: Ok, so there is a creator...
(02-06-2014 08:49 PM)Dom Wrote:  Lets just assume it for the heck of it - there is a creator.

But why should it follow that s/he is a "god"?

Maybe there is some creature like the spaghetti monster out there, and it farted, and that was the big bang.

Would that make it a god?

Why do people keep assuming that, if there was a creator, that it was a god?

Creator was a race of robots who were invented with the power to create universes, and the one that invents a fairly obtuse chaos system that is seen by the inhabitants of the universe as "designed" and gets the most people to believe in the most ridiculous notions, wins the robot-made-universe prize.

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02-06-2014, 09:14 PM
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Mice. Supercomputer. 42.

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02-06-2014, 11:31 PM
RE: Ok, so there is a creator...
(02-06-2014 08:49 PM)Dom Wrote:  Lets just assume it for the heck of it - there is a creator.

But why should it follow that s/he is a "god"?

Maybe there is some creature like the spaghetti monster out there, and it farted, and that was the big bang.

So, we'd all be just poo particles? I like that Yes Things make more sense, now Tongue

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03-06-2014, 07:23 AM
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Just getting really tired of discussions about whether the universe was created or just happened. It really has nothing to do with worshiping a god.

For all I know the universe we can explore is about as big as the universe an ant can explore in the scope of things. The big bang may indeed have been someone big farting. It just doesn't have anything to do with god or gods.

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03-06-2014, 07:30 AM
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Did you know you is both singular and plural? Yep. That's the answer. Smartass

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