On death and dying -- food for thought for atheists
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26-04-2013, 03:10 PM
RE: On death and dying -- food for thought for atheists
(26-04-2013 09:06 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
(25-04-2013 09:50 PM)childeye Wrote:  Just because an atheist believes there is nothing afterwards does not make it so. Now I ask you, does this bring hope or despair?

Hope. Consciousness kinda sux. Big Grin
Why?
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26-04-2013, 03:56 PM
RE: On death and dying -- food for thought for atheists
(26-04-2013 03:10 PM)childeye Wrote:  
(26-04-2013 09:06 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  Hope. Consciousness kinda sux. Big Grin
Why?

It is striving and restless, full of hunger and need.

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26-04-2013, 04:21 PM
RE: On death and dying -- food for thought for atheists
(26-04-2013 10:03 AM)childeye Wrote:  
(26-04-2013 08:25 AM)Chas Wrote:  There is no evidence of a hereafter.

A rational person does not select facts by what emotions they evoke.

You find the idea of no hereafter scary. Deal with it.
Respectfully you are mistaken. I have no fear of dying. Also, your statement of a rational person does not select facts by what emotions they evoke ends in hypocritical reasoning. Hence it is itself irrational. We are not robots. Death is a fact but what happens after death is an unknown. So your statement is no different then saying the desire to live is irrational.

Your reading comprehension is sub-par.

There is no evidence of anything after death. It is therefore not rational to believe that there is.

What is 'hypocritical reasoning'?

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26-04-2013, 04:54 PM
RE: On death and dying -- food for thought for atheists
(25-04-2013 09:50 PM)childeye Wrote:  Just because an atheist believes there is nothing afterwards does not make it so. Now I ask you, does this bring hope or despair?

Atheists don't believe.

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26-04-2013, 05:07 PM
RE: On death and dying -- food for thought for atheists
(25-04-2013 09:50 PM)childeye Wrote:  Just because an theist believes there is something afterwards does not make it so.

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27-04-2013, 02:17 AM
RE: On death and dying -- food for thought for atheists
I'll deal with death when it hits me. Too busy living right now
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27-04-2013, 11:00 PM (This post was last modified: 27-04-2013 11:14 PM by childeye.)
RE: On death and dying -- food for thought for atheists
(26-04-2013 03:56 PM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
(26-04-2013 03:10 PM)childeye Wrote:  Why?

It is striving and restless, full of hunger and need.
I was watching the television and I saw a man striving to save the life of a child hit by a car and I hoped he succeeded. Yeah it sucked but I'd rather hope than not.
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27-04-2013, 11:02 PM (This post was last modified: 28-04-2013 01:39 PM by childeye.)
RE: On death and dying -- food for thought for atheists
(26-04-2013 04:54 PM)Dom Wrote:  
(25-04-2013 09:50 PM)childeye Wrote:  Just because an atheist believes there is nothing afterwards does not make it so. Now I ask you, does this bring hope or despair?

Atheists don't believe.
Semantics. You believe atheists don't believe. Elsewhere on this thread you agreed with what someone else said they believed. But I think I get what you're saying.
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27-04-2013, 11:10 PM (This post was last modified: 28-04-2013 01:41 PM by childeye.)
RE: On death and dying -- food for thought for atheists
(26-04-2013 04:21 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(26-04-2013 10:03 AM)childeye Wrote:  Respectfully you are mistaken. I have no fear of dying. Also, your statement of a rational person does not select facts by what emotions they evoke ends in hypocritical reasoning. Hence it is itself irrational. We are not robots. Death is a fact but what happens after death is an unknown. So your statement is no different then saying the desire to live is irrational.
Quote:There is no evidence of anything after death.
There's no evidence that there isn't anything after death.
Quote:It is therefore not rational to believe that there is.
Nor is it rational to believe that there isn't.

What is 'hypocritical reasoning'?
When at the end of reasoning one disagrees with himself is hypocritical reasoning. Presently I value life over death and that seems rational to me lest I lie to myself.
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