Open Challenge: Reality may not exist without thoughts
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27-03-2016, 06:01 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 06:00 AM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  
(27-03-2016 05:23 AM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  Congrats! You figured it out! You're a brain floating in a jar plugged into the Matrix. You have no way to test this or otherwise invalidate it, so you cannot prove it's false. I mean, how can you prove you're not a brain in a jar experiencing a simulated reality?

Now kindly fuck off.


For Everyone Else: See? He's a Philosophy 101 dropout. Mind. Fucking. Blown.
No way to test it?
It's the easiest test you can perform.
We can do it right now.

Let's perform a good test and examine the results.
The sample must have a timeline and a state for it to be a valid sample.
Take for example this cup Drinking Beverage
The sample timeline is 1 minute starting at any point in time after this sentence & it's state will be the state at the exact point in time where you started testing the timeline.
In 5 seconds... Go.
Drinking Beverage
1 minute
End Drinking Beverage

Ok good, we have our data. Let's review:
We already know testing for reality first leads to a null hypothesis.
Let's test for thought first then.
How did you start the test at the start of the 1 minute? The exact microsecond. Was it a thought that initiated the clock or was it the clock that initiated the thought? We started the process with a thought to look at the exact first microsecond of the first second, what came next in the process was a clock, followed by the recording of the Drinking Beverage until the minute was over.
I have repeated this test multiple times and the results were always the same. Thought comes before the reality.

The question is "how do you know" reality exist before thought.
You can't possibly know without a thought, you can only guess.

Reality exists before thought. Null hypothesis
Thought exists before reality. Easily proven.

= Idiot.

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27-03-2016, 06:05 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts




Now that you're older
Taking the time to look
Back over your shoulder
On the days confusion took

Now that you're wiser
Surely you've learned to read it
You should know
No surface shines brighter
Than the light that burns beneath it

Never so sure
We always take more
Though we still don't know what it's for

Now that I've seen you
Stripped to the very core
I know that I need you
Less than I did before

Never so sure
We always take more
Though we still don't know what it's for

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27-03-2016, 06:06 AM (This post was last modified: 27-03-2016 06:23 AM by Agnostic Shane.)
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
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Quote:Congrats! You figured it out! You're a brain floating in a jar plugged into the Matrix. You have no way to test this or otherwise invalidate it, so you cannot prove it's false. I mean, how can you prove you're not a brain in a jar experiencing a simulated reality?

Now kindly fuck off.


For Everyone Else: See? He's a Philosophy 101 dropout. Mind. Fucking. Blown.
I'm not trying to prove any brains in jars or matrix. The topic title is clear.

We are discussing the reality vs thought timeline.
It's very testable.
It's the easiest test you can perform.
We can do it right now.

Let's perform a good test and examine the results.
The sample must have a timeline and a state for it to be a valid sample.
Take for example this cup Drinking Beverage
The sample timeline is 1 minute starting at any point in time after this sentence & it's state will be the state at the exact point in time where you started testing the timeline.
In 5 seconds... Go.
Drinking Beverage
1 minute
End Drinking Beverage

Ok good, we have our data. Let's review:
How did you start the test at the start of the 1 minute? The exact microsecond. Was it a thought that initiated the clock or was it the clock that initiated the thought? We started the process with a thought to look at the exact first microsecond of the first second, what came next in the process was a clock, followed by the recording of the Drinking Beverage until the minute was over.
I have repeated this test multiple times and the results were always the same. Thought comes before the reality in chronological order.

The question is "how do you know" reality exist before thought.
You can't possibly know without a thought, you can only guess.

Reality exists before thought. Null hypothesis
Thought exists before reality. Easily proven.

= Idiot.
That's your counter argument?
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27-03-2016, 06:08 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 06:06 AM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  
(27-03-2016 06:01 AM)Banjo Wrote:  = Idiot.

That'sounds your counter argument?

A fool has more questions than a professor has answers.

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27-03-2016, 06:09 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 06:08 AM)Banjo Wrote:  
(27-03-2016 06:06 AM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  That's your counter argument?

A fool has more questions than a professor has answers.
Mom can you remove this guy from the debate?
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27-03-2016, 06:10 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 06:09 AM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  
(27-03-2016 06:08 AM)Banjo Wrote:  A fool has more questions than a professor has answers.
Mom can you remove this guy from the debate?

Being an idiot is NOT a debate.

Good luck dickhead.

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27-03-2016, 06:13 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 06:10 AM)Banjo Wrote:  
(27-03-2016 06:09 AM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  Mom can you remove this guy from the debate?

Being an idiot is NOT a debate.

Good luck dickhead.
Calling someone an idiot in response to a debate is not a counter argument. You have no purpose being in this debate.
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27-03-2016, 06:14 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 06:13 AM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  
(27-03-2016 06:10 AM)Banjo Wrote:  Being an idiot is NOT a debate.

Good luck dickhead.
Calling someone an idiot in response to a debate is not a counter argument. You have no purpose being in this debate.

I do not believe you understand the lack of respect you generate. In fact you come across as insane. Seriously.

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27-03-2016, 06:22 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 06:14 AM)Banjo Wrote:  
(27-03-2016 06:13 AM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  Calling someone an idiot in response to a debate is not a counter argument. You have no purpose being in this debate.

I do not believe you understand the lack of respect you generate. In fact you come across as insane. Seriously.
How is that relevant to the debate?
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27-03-2016, 06:23 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 06:22 AM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  
(27-03-2016 06:14 AM)Banjo Wrote:  I do not believe you understand the lack of respect you generate. In fact you come across as insane. Seriously.
How is that relevant to the debate?

Facepalm

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