Open Challenge: Reality may not exist without thoughts
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27-03-2016, 07:37 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 07:24 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  Consider

So.. I come back from doing other productive stuff to find;

Ag-Shane can't even tell where 'Their' thread has been moved too and insists on bullying other posters with threats of them being 'Modded' out of the thread.

Ag-Shane is still posting stuff and ignoring/refusing to actually answer questions put to them. All the while insisting that others answer their questions.

I note there is still no actual answer to my original posts... all those pages ago...

So, it's par for the course for a thread created/participated in by Ag-Shane.

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You waved at me after I replied and never indicated you wished to resume the debate. I am was still awaiting an objection to my argument.
A question is not an indication of your position. Still awaiting your objection. I cannot argue with someone that has no objections to my argument.
A non response to my objection is not an indication of your desire to resume the debate. I cannot argue with someone that has no objection to my argument.

If you wait 5 minutes after you asked a question and then waved goodbye how does this prove that someone is ignoring you?
The person seeing you wave goodbye & then walk away will automatically assume you left the debate. They even waved back at you and you didn't object.
The very next time you met you never indicated you wished to resume the debate. You just asked a bunch of questions to them unrelated to the subject of the debate.
I will continue when you directly indicate to me you wish to resume the debate.
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27-03-2016, 07:38 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 07:24 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  Consider

So.. I come back from doing other productive stuff to find;

Ag-Shane can't even tell where 'Their' thread has been moved too and insists on bullying other posters with threats of them being 'Modded' out of the thread.

Ag-Shane is still posting stuff and ignoring/refusing to actually answer questions put to them. All the while insisting that others answer their questions.

I note there is still no actual answer to my original posts... all those pages ago...

So, it's par for the course for a thread created/participated in by Ag-Shane.

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Shane cannot answer you because he is unsure if you exist.

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27-03-2016, 07:43 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 07:22 AM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  
(27-03-2016 07:08 AM)unfogged Wrote:  A mod already moved this to the Viper's Pit so it is no longer a debate thread. It was never a debate as your initial post in incoherent. Your example does not show a thought preceding anything physical; at best you showed a thought beginning a process within a brain; no "clock" was initiated or created. Please provide an example of a thought that is not the product of a physical brain.
The test is to determine the chronology of events from a specific starting starting state and timeline.
If the timeline starts at the first microsecond what will be the initial stimulus? The clock or the thought?
I can do the test with a brain as well. The test begins at the first microsecond. The brain before the test starts cannot be counted as part of the test. It is a necessary assumption for the test.
Example: Where does a race begin? After the starting line. The starting line is not part of the race.
Similarly the brain before microsecond 1 is the starting line and therefore cannot be counted as part of the test.
Which brings us to the question, what happens at the initiation of microsecond 1.
Which process occurs at the initiation of microsecond 1?
I listed the chronology of events from microsecond one based on my examination of the test.
In every instance I have done the test I observed that thought comes first.
Please conduct the test for any reality you can think of and show me where a thought was not the first part of the process.

That's a slightly better poem.

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27-03-2016, 07:44 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 07:38 AM)Banjo Wrote:  
(27-03-2016 07:24 AM)Peebothuhul Wrote:  Consider

So.. I come back from doing other productive stuff to find;

Ag-Shane can't even tell where 'Their' thread has been moved too and insists on bullying other posters with threats of them being 'Modded' out of the thread.

Ag-Shane is still posting stuff and ignoring/refusing to actually answer questions put to them. All the while insisting that others answer their questions.

I note there is still no actual answer to my original posts... all those pages ago...

So, it's par for the course for a thread created/participated in by Ag-Shane.

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Shane cannot answer you because he is unsure if you exist.

The Viper's Pit is a debate sub section of the forums.
I have no problem with the insults so long as they are relevant to the debate.
You are repeatedly making statements that are not relevant to the debate and thus it counts as spam.
The Viper's'a Pit is not a spam room.
You admit your intention is to ridicule. You have not indicated any intention to debate and you have not posted any objections to the debate topic in the last 80% of your posts.
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27-03-2016, 07:45 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 07:44 AM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  
(27-03-2016 07:38 AM)Banjo Wrote:  Shane cannot answer you because he is unsure if you exist.

The Viper's Pit is a debate sub section of the forums.
I have no problem with the insults so long as they are relevant to the debate.
You are repeatedly making statements that are not relevant to the debate and thus it counts as spam.
The Viper's'a Pit is not a spam room.
You admit your intention is to ridicule. You have not indicated any intention to debate and you have not posted any objections to the debate topic in the last 80% of your posts.

To whom is this addressed?

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27-03-2016, 07:45 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 07:43 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(27-03-2016 07:22 AM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  The test is to determine the chronology of events from a specific starting starting state and timeline.
If the timeline starts at the first microsecond what will be the initial stimulus? The clock or the thought?
I can do the test with a brain as well. The test begins at the first microsecond. The brain before the test starts cannot be counted as part of the test. It is a necessary assumption for the test.
Example: Where does a race begin? After the starting line. The starting line is not part of the race.
Similarly the brain before microsecond 1 is the starting line and therefore cannot be counted as part of the test.
Which brings us to the question, what happens at the initiation of microsecond 1.
Which process occurs at the initiation of microsecond 1?
I listed the chronology of events from microsecond one based on my examination of the test.
In every instance I have done the test I observed that thought comes first.
Please conduct the test for any reality you can think of and show me where a thought was not the first part of the process.

That's a slightly better poem.

Wouldn't it suck to be a socialistic solipcist if ya had a lisp
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Next time I'm calling your husband.
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27-03-2016, 07:47 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 07:45 AM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  
(27-03-2016 07:43 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  That's a slightly better poem.

Wouldn't it suck to be a socialistic solipcist if ya had a lisp
Bucky I'm taken honey.
Next time I'm calling your husband.
I mean it.

Irelevent to discussion at hand.
Mods?

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27-03-2016, 07:48 AM (This post was last modified: 27-03-2016 07:52 AM by Agnostic Shane.)
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 07:47 AM)Banjo Wrote:  
(27-03-2016 07:45 AM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  Bucky I'm taken honey.
Next time I'm calling your husband.
I mean it.

Irelevent to discussion at hand.
Mods?

Big Grin
I get leniency on the grounds that I rented this bar for the night.
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Mods I need alcohol emoticons!
Always have me drinking this crap Drinking Beverage
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27-03-2016, 07:51 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 07:48 AM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  
(27-03-2016 07:47 AM)Banjo Wrote:  Irelevent to discussion at hand.
Mods?

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I get leniency on the grounds that I rented this bar for the night.
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You still here?

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27-03-2016, 07:55 AM
RE: Open Challenge: Reality cannot exist without thoughts
(27-03-2016 07:45 AM)Agnostic Shane Wrote:  
(27-03-2016 07:43 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  That's a slightly better poem.

Wouldn't it suck to be a socialistic solipcist if ya had a lisp
Bucky I'm taken honey.
Next time I'm calling your husband.
I mean it.

We're not "married".
When you call him, please be sure and ask him (and COTW also) "Why did god put an 's' in the word 'lisp' ?"
Now THAT's worth debating. I need the answer to that.

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