Order implies the God and Goddess. How beastly is this argument.
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12-01-2013, 12:16 AM (This post was last modified: 12-01-2013 12:26 AM by Adenosis.)
Order implies the God and Goddess. How beastly is this argument.
Theist says...
Quote:The world has order in it that we
didn't create. Order requires mind. There was order before there was
physical life, so there was mind before there was life. So the God and
Goddess must exist. [Image: nod.gif]

Atheist says...
Quote:What reason do you have to believe Order requires a Mind?

Egor says...
Quote:See, that's the best counter you have. You don't have an argument.
You're one of those idiot atheists who will only respond with: "Show me
proof." And then the second part of the tactic is to deny any proof
offered, or to change to concrete thinking so you can pretend the
obvious isn't so.

How the hell can you seriously not understand
that the concept of order is a mental concept. If we recognize it, we
have to have a mind. If it's present, it had to be made by a mind. Order
requires mind. There is no other proof of that. it's prima facie.

Then Atheist does epic face palm and says...
Quote:Nope, if I had proof of god I wouldn't be an atheist. With your logic, you could say anything is true without allowing it to be questioned.

Miniature Intangible Invisible Fairies are the cause of gravity, they make sure everything obeys the laws the spaghetti monster created at the instant of the big bang.

But your not allowed to question how I know this. See how that works?

The concept of order IS a mental concept, but that does not mean order is dependant on a mind. With that logic you could say anything is dependanton a mind.

So basically... Egor's site is not about debating. It is about making atheists look bad. He even has a thread called "The True Face Of Atheism", showing dude that went on a killing spree at the batman movie. The link is here http://www.veridican.org/forum/index.php?topic=35.0

Link to the debate... http://www.veridican.org/forum/index.php?topic=15.0

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Order implies the God and Goddess. How beastly is this argument. - Adenosis - 12-01-2013 12:16 AM
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