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12-09-2015, 11:50 AM
RE: Overly personal pronouns?
It's not a new thing, it has come up many times in these scenarios or fields for years. English sucks and nobody can agree to come up with a non-gender pronoun though many got suggested over time like gee/zee or something like that.

Historically there wasn't always an issue with using Them/Their as singular pronouns. But some academic authoritarians refuse to let it go and demand they are purely plural so they make you go he/she.

Really just society getting over the they/etc. as being purely plural is what should happen.

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12-09-2015, 11:52 AM
RE: Overly personal pronouns?
(12-09-2015 11:48 AM)julep Wrote:  
(12-09-2015 11:41 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  Yay! I was useful! Can I post a Gwynnie now? Heart

Why not post three (the Holy Gwynnitry)?

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12-09-2015, 11:53 AM
RE: Overly personal pronouns?
The problem is that "they" is plural. It's just ungrammatical to use "they" to refer to one individual. The only neutral pronoun English has is "it," which specifically indicates a non-human object.

I'd say to the student: Get over it. English does not have a neutral personal pronoun. Pick one and use it. It's only words, for fuck's sake.

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12-09-2015, 11:55 AM
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(12-09-2015 11:50 AM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:  Jeez, that's pretty silly.

It can be, but it's not. Tongue

I agree with Clyde, English sux; it's such an unregulated hodgepodge of craptasticness that trying to get it to make sense and be current is nearly futile.

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12-09-2015, 12:01 PM
RE: Overly personal pronouns?
How about if each person is assigned a new "class name"?
They are given a non-gender-specific name of an inanimate object that is theirs while is class. Chair, Book, Table, etc... I would save Doorknob for the person who wrote the email.
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12-09-2015, 12:06 PM
RE: Overly personal pronouns?
Just because some of you fail to understand that it's an issue, doesn't make it not an issue. Laugh out load

It ain't just about multi-hyphenated primadonnas, it's also about an historical lack that should have been long rectified.

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12-09-2015, 12:06 PM
RE: Overly personal pronouns?
Just go with y'all. It's singular, plural...and it can be possessive as in y'all's. Male, female - anything in between.

Problem solved.

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12-09-2015, 12:07 PM
RE: Overly personal pronouns?
(12-09-2015 11:50 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  It's not a new thing, it has come up many times in these scenarios or fields for years. English sucks and nobody can agree to come up with a non-gender pronoun though many got suggested over time like gee/zee or something like that.

Historically there wasn't always an issue with using Them/Their as singular pronouns. But some academic authoritarians refuse to let it go and demand they are purely plural so they make you go he/she.

Really just society getting over the they/etc. as being purely plural is what should happen.

I know that lots of people write their and them as singular and it grates on my ear, but I understand and agree with it. Where it gets hard to implement is in speech in person. That's harder to adjust. There's certainly no reason why we should have to reference a person's gender when we are discussing finger placement on a key or their ideas about phrasing.
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12-09-2015, 12:07 PM
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(12-09-2015 12:06 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Just go with y'all. It's singular, plural...and it can be possessive as in y'all's. Male, female - anything in between.

Problem solved.

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12-09-2015, 12:08 PM
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(12-09-2015 12:07 PM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
(12-09-2015 12:06 PM)Anjele Wrote:  Just go with y'all. It's singular, plural...and it can be possessive as in y'all's. Male, female - anything in between.

Problem solved.

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