Padre Pio - Fraud or not?
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18-11-2012, 01:11 AM
RE: Padre Pio - Fraud or not?
(23-01-2012 01:43 PM)iakhovas Wrote:  
(23-01-2012 11:20 AM)Chas Wrote:  He is a fraud - Google is your friend. e.g. Committee for Skeptical Inquiry

I found this CSI (lol) page already and read the material, I was wondering if this is considered valid. There are so many books, biographies etc with doctors witnessing strange phenomena with medical evidences of his condition and so on. I cant just compare one biography with this report stating that it is more accurate and probably true.
Firstly, personal accounts that cannot be verified do not count very well for evidence. Even in court, hearsay things or personal accounts with no alibi and no further evidence can be dismissed. If you wouldn't hold a person to it in a court of law, why the hell would you hold a person to it when it comes to things important in life like... important issues of morality, supernatural accounts, etc?

Example:
Quote:I saw a ghost once. Do you believe me? Well you should because I have a PHD and I'm super smart. Also, I can tell you that things about the account seemed very likely because I'm able to talk about medicine stuff. Therefore, since I'm able to talk on the subject, i'm reputable. You should believe me! I'm credible!

This kind of stuff comes up a lot.

If a doctor comes across something that is unexplained, it should remain just that... unexplained. To assert something they cannot prove is nothing more than a leap, that is faulty logic. Despite whether or not they have a PHD, experience in the field, etc. Unexplained is unexplained. It is no more credible than someone working for the airforce seeing a UFO (unidentified flying object) and instead of calling it unidentified, asserting it is aliens.


This is where logic is important.

As others have mentioned, it's a fraudulent account, but either way, I wanted to touch on the subject of evidence, personal accounts, etc.
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Padre Pio - Fraud or not? - iakhovas - 23-01-2012, 11:05 AM
RE: Padre Pio - Fraud or not? - Chas - 23-01-2012, 11:20 AM
RE: Padre Pio - Fraud or not? - iakhovas - 23-01-2012, 01:43 PM
RE: Padre Pio - Fraud or not? - Logisch - 18-11-2012 01:11 AM
RE: Padre Pio - Fraud or not? - Jeff - 23-01-2012, 12:01 PM
RE: Padre Pio - Fraud or not? - morondog - 23-01-2012, 03:50 PM
RE: Padre Pio - Fraud or not? - Observer - 23-01-2012, 04:02 PM
RE: Padre Pio - Fraud or not? - Bucky Ball - 24-01-2012, 05:25 AM
RE: Padre Pio - Fraud or not? - Malleus - 24-01-2012, 04:09 AM
RE: Padre Pio - Fraud or not? - deadwood - 24-06-2013, 03:41 AM
RE: Padre Pio - Fraud or not? - iakhovas - 24-01-2012, 07:11 AM
RE: Padre Pio - Fraud or not? - morondog - 24-01-2012, 07:50 AM
RE: Padre Pio - Fraud or not? - Bucky Ball - 24-01-2012, 10:21 AM
RE: Padre Pio - Fraud or not? - Malleus - 24-01-2012, 08:47 AM
RE: Padre Pio - Fraud or not? - morondog - 24-01-2012, 09:46 AM
RE: Padre Pio - Fraud or not? - morondog - 18-11-2012, 12:48 AM
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