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12-06-2014, 07:23 PM
RE: Paleo Diet Debunked
Paleo is a good diet, you can live on it without any deficiencies, you can lose weight on it, you can maintain on it, and you don't ever feel like you are starving and you have no cravings.

The fad part is the exclusion of legumes and grains, both of which are good to eat if not stripped of their nutrients. You have to expect some sort of gimmick in diets if they are marketed to the public.

It is a diet that focuses on protein and complex carbs. That is a good diet if a lot of variety is maintained. But there is no reason to avoid legumes at all, and whole grains should be taken with caution when using a carb based diet for weight loss.

If grains are your passion, then a low calorie diet will work better for you.

Another thing about Paleo is that it includes no processed foods, which is a healthier and safer way to eat.

So, ignore the fad part and look at the nutrition and proper weight loss when you evaluate diets. Also, if you can't live on it indefinitely in good health, it's a bad diet.

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12-06-2014, 07:25 PM
RE: Paleo Diet Debunked
(12-06-2014 07:01 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 06:53 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  http://www.livestrong.com/article/368973...ood-carbs/

http://www.nutritionmd.org/nutrition_tip...ersus.html

http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/potatoes...-7866.html

These websites say potatoes are carbs

Ok well there you go. Pasta is also a good source of carbs, whole grain are probably the most healthy.

The most healthy? Maybe the whole grain part, but pasta hell nah. Where does this grain the most healthy come from? You mean rice?

Let us go over the benefits of both oats and potatoes.

Oats:
OATS MAY REDUCE ASTHMA RISK IN CHILDREN

OATS MAY BOOST NUTRITION PROFILE OF GLUTEN-FREE DIETS

OATS INCREASE APPETITE-CONTROL HORMONES

OAT BETA GLUCANS IMPROVE IMMUNE SYSTEM DEFENSES

OATS HELP CUT THE USE OF LAXATIVES

OATS MAY HELP REDUCE THE RISK OF TYPE 2 DIABETES

OATS MAY IMPROVE INSULIN SENSITIVITY

OATS LOWER BAD CHOLESTEROL

OATS HELP CONTROL BLOOD PRESSURE

DIGESTION
http://wholegrainscouncil.org/whole-grai...ts-of-oats


Potatoes:

Weight Gain(muscle)

Helps with Digestion

Helps with Skin Care

Helps with Scurvy

Helps with Rheumatism

Helps with Inflammation

Helps with Cancer Prevention

Helps with High Blood Pressure

Helps with Heart Diseases

Helps with Brain Function

Helps with Kidney Stones

Helps with Diarrhea

http://www.organicfacts.net/health-benef...otato.html

So far the potato seems better.

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12-06-2014, 07:26 PM
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(12-06-2014 07:10 PM)Smercury44 Wrote:  Paleo, it's true. If you want to lose weight it's all about calories. If you want to be healthy you need a well rounded diet. Everything in moderation. If you want to lose weight and gain muscle you need a low calorie diet that's high in protein. It helps to have your biggest boost of protein right after a workout to help rebuild muscle tissue. Thumbsup

You do know I eat more calories than I am supposed to and still lose weight right?

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12-06-2014, 07:40 PM
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Calorie based diets and carb based diets are very different and can't be mixed. They both work.

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12-06-2014, 07:47 PM
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(12-06-2014 07:23 PM)Dom Wrote:  Paleo is a good diet, you can live on it without any deficiencies, you can lose weight on it, you can maintain on it, and you don't ever feel like you are starving and you have no cravings.

The fad part is the exclusion of legumes and grains, both of which are good to eat if not stripped of their nutrients. You have to expect some sort of gimmick in diets if they are marketed to the public.

It is a diet that focuses on protein and complex carbs. That is a good diet if a lot of variety is maintained. But there is no reason to avoid legumes at all, and whole grains should be taken with caution when using a carb based diet for weight loss.

If grains are your passion, then a low calorie diet will work better for you.

Another thing about Paleo is that it includes no processed foods, which is a healthier and safer way to eat.

So, ignore the fad part and look at the nutrition and proper weight loss when you evaluate diets. Also, if you can't live on it indefinitely in good health, it's a bad diet.

This is perfect, except the legume part, to many down falls for it to be bad for excluding.

http://www.liveto110.com/think-beans-and...nk-again/#

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12-06-2014, 08:02 PM
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(12-06-2014 07:26 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 07:10 PM)Smercury44 Wrote:  Paleo, it's true. If you want to lose weight it's all about calories. If you want to be healthy you need a well rounded diet. Everything in moderation. If you want to lose weight and gain muscle you need a low calorie diet that's high in protein. It helps to have your biggest boost of protein right after a workout to help rebuild muscle tissue. Thumbsup

You do know I eat more calories than I am supposed to and still lose weight right?

If you mean you eat more than the recommended calories, that's probably true if the amount of activity in your regular day leads you to burn more than that number of calories.

If you mean you eat more calories in a day than you burn in the same time period, you're either lying or need to see a doctor. Get checked for a tapeworm or something.

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12-06-2014, 08:06 PM
RE: Paleo Diet Debunked
(12-06-2014 08:02 PM)Smercury44 Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 07:26 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  You do know I eat more calories than I am supposed to and still lose weight right?

If you mean you eat more than the recommended calories, that's probably true if the amount of activity in your regular day leads you to burn more than that number of calories.

If you mean you eat more calories in a day than you burn in the same time period, you're either lying or need to see a doctor. Get checked for a tapeworm or something.

Oh I do work out and that is why the calorie thing is bs to me. If you burn more calories than you eat no matter how much you eat why worry about it? The calorie thing works best if someone is trying to lose weight without working out(it can both but eating only a certain amount of things a day based on how much calories it has sucks)

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12-06-2014, 08:17 PM
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(12-06-2014 07:25 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 07:01 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  Ok well there you go. Pasta is also a good source of carbs, whole grain are probably the most healthy.

The most healthy? Maybe the whole grain part, but pasta hell nah. Where does this grain the most healthy come from? You mean rice?

Let us go over the benefits of both oats and potatoes.

Oats:
OATS MAY REDUCE ASTHMA RISK IN CHILDREN

OATS MAY BOOST NUTRITION PROFILE OF GLUTEN-FREE DIETS

OATS INCREASE APPETITE-CONTROL HORMONES

OAT BETA GLUCANS IMPROVE IMMUNE SYSTEM DEFENSES

OATS HELP CUT THE USE OF LAXATIVES

OATS MAY HELP REDUCE THE RISK OF TYPE 2 DIABETES

OATS MAY IMPROVE INSULIN SENSITIVITY

OATS LOWER BAD CHOLESTEROL

OATS HELP CONTROL BLOOD PRESSURE

DIGESTION
http://wholegrainscouncil.org/whole-grai...ts-of-oats


Potatoes:

Weight Gain(muscle)

Helps with Digestion

Helps with Skin Care

Helps with Scurvy

Helps with Rheumatism

Helps with Inflammation

Helps with Cancer Prevention

Helps with High Blood Pressure

Helps with Heart Diseases

Helps with Brain Function

Helps with Kidney Stones

Helps with Diarrhea

http://www.organicfacts.net/health-benef...otato.html

So far the potato seems better.

Guy?

Those are not competent sources.
(especially the latter)

Learn to skepticism. I know you're personally attached to this one, but still.

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12-06-2014, 08:19 PM
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(12-06-2014 08:06 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 08:02 PM)Smercury44 Wrote:  If you mean you eat more than the recommended calories, that's probably true if the amount of activity in your regular day leads you to burn more than that number of calories.

If you mean you eat more calories in a day than you burn in the same time period, you're either lying or need to see a doctor. Get checked for a tapeworm or something.

Oh I do work out and that is why the calorie thing is bs to me. If you burn more calories than you eat no matter how much you eat why worry about it? The calorie thing works best if someone is trying to lose weight without working out(it can both but eating only a certain amount of things a day based on how much calories it has sucks)

It's grade school math, friend. Which number is bigger? Energy is conserved. Catabolysis releases free energy. Either it becomes (micro or macroscopic) kinetic energy, or it becomes chemical potential energy.

You've said plenty of reasonable things about balanced and unprocessed diets. That has literally nothing to do with whatever fad shit is labelled "paleo". Lose the buzzword. It's not doing you any favours.

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12-06-2014, 08:21 PM
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(12-06-2014 06:39 PM)Revenant77x Wrote:  
(12-06-2014 06:33 PM)ThePaleolithicFreethinker Wrote:  So wait, it is only calories?

Yes.

I don't think that's right. It's more about the insulin response to the calories. At least for insulin-resistant and type 2 diabetics.

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