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28-01-2015, 05:52 AM
RE: Pat Condell nails it
(28-01-2015 12:33 AM)pablo Wrote:  
(28-01-2015 12:21 AM)earmuffs Wrote:  We're not talking about Iraq, we're talking about ISIS.

The same guys who walked into Iraq nearly unchallenged after we toppled the government there?
That ISIS?

Yea those cunts. The ones that walked into Iraq because you ballsed the Iraq war.
The ones that the Kurd's are now giving a good hammering and will continue to do so if you guys are able to adequately support them with air strikes and shit which will result in a strong nation rather than a shitty one like what happened in Iraq when you sent troops in to do all the work for the Iraqi's instead of letting them do it themselves that would create a strong nation in the first place so cunts like ISIS can't just walk in.
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28-01-2015, 07:02 AM
RE: Pat Condell nails it
(27-01-2015 11:47 PM)EvolutionKills Wrote:  
(27-01-2015 04:39 PM)pablo Wrote:  Outlaw ALL corporate lobbying.

Not possible short of a Constitutional amendment because of the Citizens United ruling.

http://www.wolf-pac.com/

It is possible, the Supreme Court could strike down or reverse its ruling. It's happened before.
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29-01-2015, 11:01 AM
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(27-01-2015 03:53 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(27-01-2015 02:53 PM)Full Circle Wrote:  Are you saying no one is doing anything about the Islamic extremists? If you are I can't say I agree, however I do think we may not be doing enough.

I'm all for cutting off the head of the snake.

Nuke Mecca? Consider

Or better yet, storm the place and restore it as a pagan site, but add pornography and idolatry all over the place. That would be a serious blow to Islam. Half of the Moslems would probably convert as soon as they see porn.

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29-01-2015, 11:12 AM
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(29-01-2015 11:01 AM)Res Publica Wrote:  as soon as they see porn.

What makes you think they haven't already seen porn? Naked people are hardly a novelty.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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29-01-2015, 02:42 PM
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(29-01-2015 11:12 AM)morondog Wrote:  
(29-01-2015 11:01 AM)Res Publica Wrote:  as soon as they see porn.

What makes you think they haven't already seen porn? Naked people are hardly a novelty.

Internet censorship. Furthermore in Saudi Arabia (where Mecca is) men may not even see their wife's face until marriage. (Link) So many of them probably end up marrying a Merkel look-alike.

I think porn could be Islam's Achilles heel. Imagine if we airdropped anti-Islamic porn all over the Middle East. You could have a dominatrix with Muhammed on a leash or other such blasphemous stuff. That could kill Islam.

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29-01-2015, 03:00 PM
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(29-01-2015 02:42 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  I think porn could be Islam's Achilles heel. Imagine if we airdropped anti-Islamic porn all over the Middle East. You could have a dominatrix with Muhammed on a leash or other such blasphemous stuff. That could kill Islam.

... Because pissing people off is a great way to convert them to your particular way of thinking. Hey maybe if we dropped pamphlets about immigration all those brown fellas would stay home, whaddya think? We just need to explain to them what assholes they are in plain English, and that they're really very backward and need to get with the program.

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(06-02-2014 03:47 PM)Momsurroundedbyboys Wrote:  And I'm giving myself a conclusion again from all the facepalming.
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29-01-2015, 03:20 PM
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Is there actually any evidence at all that anti-semitism is in vogue in Europe right now? Obviously, anti-semitism has always been a problem, it still is, there's parties in Europe with the far-right that are inherently anti-semitic, some of their members post on stormfront forums (a white nationalist community); it's not going to go away after a finger snap - But, as far as I know, the so called "persecution" of jews isn't any worse than mosques being burned and people defending sending all Muslim immigrants back to where they came from.

Let me be very clear, I don't agree with the definition of Islamophobia as it is now, a word that suppresses politically incorrect opinions - But I'm not going to lump Muslims in one category and have an anti-immigration stance - Not only would that open the door to kick out any immigrant that is not European white native (Blacks are pretty much hated in my country, and so are gypsies) but it's also ironic because I don't think Muslims are any better than Christians; if anything, Christians have calmed down with legally enforced secularism and church state separation.

Can anyone provide me some reasonable proof that anti-semitism is really becoming a problem due to Muslims? [If you asked me, I'm afraid it becomes a problem but mostly due to far right parties]

Something important that I've already mentioned in AF.org - There are 2 groups of people that criticize Islam - Atheists and skeptics, that criticize Islam because it is a religion, just like they criticize Christianity or Judaism; and far right conservatives, who hate Muslims because they are not white Christian Europeans the same way they hate blacks, gypsies, minorities, gays, lesbians, trans, etc. As much as religion deserves criticism and mockery, I DON'T want to sign up for an alliance with these fucking morons, specially considering that I may have some jewish heritage and that would work as an excuse for them to kick me out of the country I've lived in since I was born

I also have a problem with this double standards:
- Criticizing Muslims - It's ok, Islamophobia doesn't exist, blasphemy laws are bad, we should all criticize Muslims - Usually in the west most people don't mind if you criticize Islam, even with all the anti-free-speech laws, and few people who are not Muslims support blasphemy laws.
- Criticize Judaism or jews - Anti-semitism, simply denying the holocaust is a crime in some countries - No one complains about this, everyone is fine.
- Insult Christians - Oh that's anti-Christian you should respect all religions!
Am I the only one who notices this? I'm not excusing Islam, but I don't think it is any worse than Christianity, I don't like the double standard propagated by the far right that Muslims don't belong here because it's not their culture but the Catholic church is ok because it's part of our culture.

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29-01-2015, 03:27 PM
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(29-01-2015 02:42 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  
(29-01-2015 11:12 AM)morondog Wrote:  What makes you think they haven't already seen porn? Naked people are hardly a novelty.

Internet censorship. Furthermore in Saudi Arabia (where Mecca is) men may not even see their wife's face until marriage. (Link) So many of them probably end up marrying a Merkel look-alike.

I think porn could be Islam's Achilles heel. Imagine if we airdropped anti-Islamic porn all over the Middle East. You could have a dominatrix with Muhammed on a leash or other such blasphemous stuff. That could kill Islam.

Well at least then we'd have somewhere to dispose of all the escort service pamphlets scattered all over Las Vegas.
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29-01-2015, 04:11 PM
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(29-01-2015 02:42 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  Furthermore in Saudi Arabia (where Mecca is) men may not even see their wife's face until marriage. (Link)

Boy, I wish I could make vast, sweeping generalisations about entire countries' populations solely by referring to a single anecdote from a dishrag tabloid newspaper.

What a talent!

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03-02-2015, 09:28 AM
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(29-01-2015 04:11 PM)cjlr Wrote:  
(29-01-2015 02:42 PM)Res Publica Wrote:  Furthermore in Saudi Arabia (where Mecca is) men may not even see their wife's face until marriage. (Link)

Boy, I wish I could make vast, sweeping generalisations about entire countries' populations solely by referring to a single anecdote from a dishrag tabloid newspaper.

What a talent!

Note that I used the word "may", you know, as in might.

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