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12-05-2017, 06:35 AM
Pepe the Frog is Dead
NPR: What Pepe the Frog's Death Can Teach Us About The Internet

TLDR: When Pepe became a meme period, the creator considered killing him off. However, when the "Alt-Right" (can we call Fascists, fascists?) co-opted him, he tried essays, campaigns, and partnering with the Anti-Defamation League to save him. A few weeks after the election, he decided to end it, his creation, meant to be a fun character, was now a symbol of hatred. Last week, Pepe the Frog died in the comic strip he starred in, allowing his creator to wash his hands of the hateful way in which Pepe will live on. A good thing, twisted by hate, much like the internet sometimes seems to be as a whole.

Quote:With barely an Internet whimper, Pepe the Frog, the anthropomorphic cartoon character turned symbol of hate, was put down by his creator, Matt Furie, over the weekend, in a single-page comic strip. The final images were of Pepe dead in a casket, with three former roommates paying tribute by pouring some liquor on Pepe's face and drinking the rest.

The demise of Pepe — who had become a symbol of the alt-right, neo-Nazis and white nationalists — was as sad as it was unlikely. Pepe, from the start, was supposed to be a good guy. But in the story of his rise and fall, some universal truths about the nature of modern Internet can be found.

[if you go to the tweet embedded in the article and click on it, you get to see Nazis crowing about how they've won]

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But first, let's look back at just how Pepe came to be.

When Furie created the character in 2005 and later featured him in the comic Boy's Club, he was just trying to make a chill bro who happened to be an animal. "He's a 20-something post-college roommate," Furie told NPR. "He's an anthropomorphic frog that lives with a party wolf, a bear-like creature, and then kind of a muppety, dog-like creature ... in a one-room apartment. And [they] kinda just party together and pull pranks on one another and hug each other and that kind of thing."

Furie said the characters were loosely based on his life, "living with a bunch of guys," and that "Pepe the Frog's more of just the Everyman. He likes to take naps and smoke weed, play video games."

Pepe really took off with one particular comic strip, depicting the frog pulling his pants down all the way to his ankles to urinate. After one of his roommates called him out, Pepe replied, "Feels good man." A star was born.

Denouncement as endorsement

And then, that same star was coopted, stolen by a 4chan fringe. In an effort described to the Daily Beast as a push to "reclaim Pepe from normies," a dedicated group of 4chan users began to tie Pepe to white nationalism beginning around 2015. "We basically mixed Pepe in with Nazi propaganda, etc. We built that association," one user told Daily Beast reporter Olivia Nuzzi.

And during the 2016 election, that fringe ended up successfully tying Pepe to Donald Trump.

"Eventually, a popular meme of the smug frog with Donald Trump's hair started circulating online and then eventually got retweeted by the Donald Trump campaign," said Matthew Schimkowitz, an editor at Know Your Meme. "When that happened, the meaning of Pepe as kind of a white nationalist or alt-right symbol kind of exploded. It was considered by many to be a tactic of dog-whistling from the Trump campaign to that sect of white nationalists online, and it became a new symbol for white nationalists maybe not online. It essentially amplified that specific meaning of Pepe."

But what happened next was telling. Donald Trump's opponent, Hillary Clinton, publicly denounced Pepe, and that only strengthened Pepe's connection to white nationalists, proving that a lot of times online, denouncing something can function as an amplifier.

"I didn't notice anything until there was a Hillary [Clinton] explainer," Furie said.

Schimkowitz added: "Because such high-profile people — perhaps the two most famous people on the planet — were saying in so much that Pepe is a symbol of the alt-right, that became the kind of meaning for the meme entirely. It's what we call here the Pepe effect. When everyone starts using a meme to mean one specific thing, that essentially becomes the meaning of it."

Furie fought hard to change it. He wrote an essay in Time magazine, to reclaim Pepe. There was a Save Pepe campaign, complete with links to a Save Pepe online shop on Furie's Tumblr. Furie even partnered with the Anti-Defamation League to get Pepe back from white nationalists. Clearly, none of this worked.

"These trolls, or whatever you wanna call them, they're kinda like the loudest voice on the Internet," Furie told NPR, a few days before he killed off Pepe.

Strangely enough, Furie said he made the comic that killed Pepe off just a few weeks after the election, even though it just published online this past weekend. Furie said he had thought about killing Pepe long before the alt-right stole him.

"Honestly, I thought about killing off Pepe just simply when he became a meme, before it was even associated with hate speech," Furie told NPR. "When an artist loses control of their creation, it's never that great." But he said he's not sad about the trajectory of Pepe's life.

Kermit vs. Pepe

The demise of Pepe the frog is particularly sad when compared to the fate of the Internet's other famous amphibian: Kermit. That Muppet character has blossomed over the last year as a tea-sipping, real-talk-providing voice of humor and reason, with a good heart. Perhaps part of why Kermit lived while Pepe died is that Kermit was defined in the culture long before the Internet.

From the start, Jim Henson made him lovable. Not so with Pepe. This frog wasn't etched in the public consciousness before the alt-right got a hold of him. "It basically says that things without very specific meaning can be changed pretty much in an instant," Schimkowitz said. "If a word isn't clearly defined, it can then kind of morph. Memes kind of work the same way."

Schimkowitz compares Kermit the Frog to Superman, in that both characters have definitions that existed long before the Internet, personas that will likely never change, and might face backlash if anyone tried. "In the last couple of Superman movies, there's been a lot of outcry about how dark they made the character," he said. "He wasn't necessarily saving anybody, which is pretty much the opposite of what everybody knows about Superman.

"Superman wasn't doing Superman," Schimkowitz said. "Kermit has that, too. People are so familiar with these characters, that they're not just going to suddenly forget their entire lifetime with them and accept something new."

And that's where Pepe failed, if his takeover by the alt-right could be considered his fault. The frog white nationalists wanted him to be was a stronger character than the one Furie did. And if that's the case, the worst version probably always wins.

Even now, the alt-right seems to be having its way with another symbol: the "OK" hand gesture, though the jury's still out on whether it's becoming a hate sign, or just being used to troll mainstream news outlets.

Either way, chances are, given enough time, it too will morph into something bad, not something better. The moral arc of the Internet is long, but it usually bends towards awful.

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12-05-2017, 06:41 AM
RE: Pepe the Frog is Dead
So you're saying he croaked Wink
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12-05-2017, 06:45 AM
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...how I missed that will be a shame upon my honor as an enjoyer of puns forever.

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12-05-2017, 06:50 AM (This post was last modified: 12-05-2017 07:01 AM by cactus.)
RE: Pepe the Frog is Dead
Pepe will live on in our hearts, minds, and avatars. Heart

Your hair is pink, and I don't personally want to fuck you. Therefore your argument is less valid. Checkmate, feminists!
I'm going to use a noun to describe you. Checkmate, MRAs!
Derpy face screengrab video thumbnail. Checkmate, femininazis!
George Soros. Checkmate, libtards!
You probably just don't have any social skills. Checkmate, MGTOWs!
Koch Bros. Checkmate, neocons!
Blue lives. Checkmate, white lives.
Black lives. Checkmate, all lives.
White nationalism. Checkmate, anyone I don't like.
Molotov cocktail! Checkmate, FASCISTS!
Shadilay!!! 77777777 REEEEEEE!!!!!! Checkmate, all of humanity!

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This all could have been avoided if we'd just had less ethics on Facebook, and more grandmas in games journalism Sad

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12-05-2017, 07:45 AM
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(12-05-2017 06:41 AM)jennybee Wrote:  So you're saying he croaked Wink

It's all so ribbiting!

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12-05-2017, 07:47 AM
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(12-05-2017 07:45 AM)Old Man Marsh Wrote:  
(12-05-2017 06:41 AM)jennybee Wrote:  So you're saying he croaked Wink

It's all so ribbiting!

It toad-ally is Big Grin
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12-05-2017, 07:57 AM
RE: Pepe the Frog is Dead
(12-05-2017 07:45 AM)Old Man Marsh Wrote:  
(12-05-2017 06:41 AM)jennybee Wrote:  So you're saying he croaked Wink

It's all so ribbiting!
For the moment. By tomorrow, all of you will have frogotten him.
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12-05-2017, 10:14 AM
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(12-05-2017 07:57 AM)Rockblossom Wrote:  For the moment. By tomorrow, all of you will have frogotten him.

Fictional characters die all the time -- in fiction. Creators love to torture and kill their creations.

Yes
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12-05-2017, 11:20 AM
RE: Pepe the Frog is Dead
Weeping


But as if to knock me down, reality came around
And without so much as a mere touch, cut me into little pieces

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12-05-2017, 11:28 AM
RE: Pepe the Frog is Dead
Yeah but like, is it okay to punch a rare Pepe in the face now?

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