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25-07-2015, 09:51 AM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 09:46 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(25-07-2015 09:43 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  And by other possible truths you mean your woo? Also atheism isn't so intimately linked with science as you appear to sugest, it's just lack of belief in god not religious belief in science.
For you perhaps. I don't think you can speak for all. Just as I cannot speak for most theists.

Don't care about what you think. Here is definition of atheism from Oxford English Dictionary: Disbelief in, or denial of, the existence of a god.. There is nothing about science here so you could stop with this kind of nonsense.

The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.

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25-07-2015, 09:58 AM
RE: Personal experience argument
Why not just believe leprechauns did everything? Or garden gnomes? Or Santa Claus? How is what you are saying about God/Angels/Jesus any different than believing in any other story, legend, or myth? At least Science is based on something that is testable. Where do you draw the line between reality and fantasy? Feelings don't = Reality.

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25-07-2015, 10:06 AM
RE: Personal experience argument
Do you believe in the big bang? How about the hypothesis of quantization?
Do you think that there is infinity within our Universe?

All that is science and God. God being defined as the bigger part of existence.
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25-07-2015, 10:23 AM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 09:38 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  It's just that they close their minds to any other possible truth other than science as opposed to incorperating it into real life.

We have not closed our minds in the slightest, your complete and total failure to met your burden of proof and demonstrate that you have a truth in any way at all, and our rejection of your silly assertions that can't even agree with its self is not OUR failure but yours.

You tried to make your case and failed, to belive you when you have failed would be idiotic and unreasonable on our part.

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25-07-2015, 10:28 AM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 10:06 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Do you believe in the big bang? How about the hypothesis of quantization?
Do you think that there is infinity within our Universe?

All that is science and God. God being defined as the bigger part of existence.

We can prove it's science and you can't prove it's god. Your assertions are not evidence.

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25-07-2015, 10:30 AM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 09:45 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(25-07-2015 09:42 AM)Chas Wrote:  Incorporating what into real life? Consider
Science. There is reality that completely coincides With science.

Right like the fact we have proven that Adam, Eve, and Moses did not in anyway exist, a point I've made a couple times now and you have ignored.

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25-07-2015, 10:35 AM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 10:06 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Do you believe in the big bang? How about the hypothesis of quantization?
Do you think that there is infinity within our Universe?

All that is science and God. God being defined as the bigger part of existence.

You have proven there is infinity in our universe. You are infinitely repetitive, sanctimonious, misogynistic, short-sighted, and boring.

We have enough youth. How about looking for the Fountain of Smart?
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25-07-2015, 10:41 AM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 10:35 AM)Thinkerbelle Wrote:  
(25-07-2015 10:06 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Do you believe in the big bang? How about the hypothesis of quantization?
Do you think that there is infinity within our Universe?

All that is science and God. God being defined as the bigger part of existence.

You have proven there is infinity in our universe. You are infinitely repetitive, sanctimonious, misogynistic, short-sighted, and boring.

Amen, Sister Big Grin

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25-07-2015, 10:46 AM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 09:01 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(24-07-2015 11:28 AM)julep Wrote:  You were the one who contrasted Adam and Eve's ethics, choices, and childrearing policies with the "heinous" ones made by atheists, and you were the one lauding the sacrifices. I just connected the dots.

And of course Cain isn't presented by the Genesis narrative as an atheist or a "mainline" (LOL) believer. Cain is, however, the third person in the Bible to trip the wire on a trap set by angry-dad god. He gave god the wrong present, so god humiliated him, knowing (omniscient) what would happen.

I'm not perfect, just more ethical than your god.
There were two forces at work during the big bang or creation as we know it. With that being said; God, being all the good of creation had little to do with Cain's sins. It was internal corruption from evil. The other building block is you will

It would help me to understand your points if you wrote in complete sentences.

The account in Genesis does not reference two forces at work during the creation, and that's the text being discussed here. There is nothing in the elements of the Cain and creation stories, as presented by the text, that contradicts my interpretation. The events recounted in Genesis and throughout the Bible depict a creator who is neither good nor ethical, although he proclaims himself as such. God's claims about his motives are value statements contradicted by his actions. As a narrator, he is therefore unreliable.
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25-07-2015, 11:23 AM
RE: Personal experience argument
Read the first 3 lines of the Torah. Then make that same statement, please.
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