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25-07-2015, 11:28 AM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 11:23 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Read the first 3 lines of the Torah. Then make that same statement, please.

Have you read it? There is only one force at work--not two. Two forces would be polytheism. The major point of Genesis is its emphasis on monotheism--One God, One Creator, One Force.

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25-07-2015, 12:14 PM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 11:28 AM)jennybee Wrote:  
(25-07-2015 11:23 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Read the first 3 lines of the Torah. Then make that same statement, please.

Have you read it? There is only one force at work--not two. Two forces would be polytheism. The major point of Genesis is its emphasis on monotheism--One God, One Creator, One Force.
One creator, yes

Two forces.
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25-07-2015, 12:15 PM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 12:14 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(25-07-2015 11:28 AM)jennybee Wrote:  Have you read it? There is only one force at work--not two. Two forces would be polytheism. The major point of Genesis is its emphasis on monotheism--One God, One Creator, One Force.
One creator, yes

Two forces.

What two forces? Maybe I am not understanding what you are trying to get at?

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25-07-2015, 12:23 PM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 12:15 PM)jennybee Wrote:  
(25-07-2015 12:14 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  One creator, yes

Two forces.

What two forces? Maybe I am not understanding what you are trying to get at?
1) God/ creator

3)nothing/darkness/opposite force from good, destruction, work in the opposing direction.
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25-07-2015, 12:26 PM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 12:23 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(25-07-2015 12:15 PM)jennybee Wrote:  What two forces? Maybe I am not understanding what you are trying to get at?
1) God/ creator

3)nothing/darkness/opposite force from good, destruction, work in the opposing direction.

2 seems to be missing along with the whole making sense part.

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25-07-2015, 12:27 PM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 11:23 AM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  Read the first 3 lines of the Torah. Then make that same statement, please.

He says after days of talking about New Testament characters while having never read the book.

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25-07-2015, 12:29 PM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 12:23 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(25-07-2015 12:15 PM)jennybee Wrote:  What two forces? Maybe I am not understanding what you are trying to get at?
1) God/ creator

3)nothing/darkness/opposite force from good, destruction, work in the opposing direction.

If you had gone to college you would know that there are 4 fundamental forces: strong, electromagnetic, weak, and gravity. But I know you think that college is just a waste of time and you know a lot more than the entire community of physicists.

#sigh
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25-07-2015, 12:30 PM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 12:29 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(25-07-2015 12:23 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  1) God/ creator

3)nothing/darkness/opposite force from good, destruction, work in the opposing direction.

If you had gone to college you would know that there are 4 fundamental forces: strong, electromagnetic, weak, and gravity. But I know you think that college is just a waste of time.

If he had gone to elementary school he wouldn't have missed the 2. Sleepy

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25-07-2015, 12:37 PM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 12:23 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  
(25-07-2015 12:15 PM)jennybee Wrote:  What two forces? Maybe I am not understanding what you are trying to get at?
1) God/ creator

3)nothing/darkness/opposite force from good, destruction, work in the opposing direction.

Well, the first three lines of Genesis do not mention good or evil or destruction.

1 In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth—

2 and the earth was without form or shape, with darkness over the abyss and a mighty wind sweeping over the waters—

3 Then God said: Let there be light, and there was light.

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25-07-2015, 12:39 PM
RE: Personal experience argument
(25-07-2015 12:37 PM)jennybee Wrote:  
(25-07-2015 12:23 PM)popsthebuilder Wrote:  1) God/ creator

3)nothing/darkness/opposite force from good, destruction, work in the opposing direction.

Well, the first three lines of Genesis don't talk about good or evil or destruction.

1 In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth—

2 and the earth was without form or shape, with darkness over the abyss and a mighty wind sweeping over the waters—

3 Then God said: Let there be light, and there was light.
God is the wind
The abyss or water is darkness.

Try the Torah.
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