Philosophically, why are human's able to understand the world around us?
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26-12-2010, 08:17 PM
 
Philosophically, why are human's able to understand the world around us?
I was talking to my father the other day, and he presented the question:

"Philosophically speaking, why are human's able to understand how things work around them? Why can we learn and understand about atom's, and quantum physics? Why are we so much more intelligent than animals? Why are we so different? Why are we so much more Intelligent? Remember, I don't want a Biological explanation, a philosophical explanation."

Any ideas?
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26-12-2010, 10:20 PM
RE: Philosophically, why are human's able to understand the world around us?
I'm not sure if there is much philosophical answers to this questions.. This is more of a medical question.

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26-12-2010, 10:54 PM
RE: Philosophically, why are human's able to understand the world around us?
I don't think there is anything philosophical about the question, it's all biological, and probability. Basically we were the lucky species that became fully bipedal.
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26-12-2010, 11:02 PM
 
RE: Philosophically, why are human's able to understand the world around us?
Yeah, My first reaction was You can't bring philosophy into this because it's not a philosophical question. Of course he's pointing at intelligent design, even though he believes in evolution (which is probably contradictory.) So, because he's pointing at intelligent design, how can I refute his argument? It seems like he thinks he's right because it is obvious that we are more intelligent than animals, and he must think I have nothing to back that up with, and he thinks that people being much more intelligent than animals is evidence for intelligent design, which it isn't. Any more ideas?
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26-12-2010, 11:07 PM
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Well dolphins also use their neocortex, and may actually be smarter than humans, the only difference is that we have bipedalism and oposable thumbs, which allows us to make tools. Through the making of tools, eventually we developed systems of storing information (writing, paintings, DVDs, etc.) and this literacy and stored information, as well as easy communication, makes us seem more intelligent, but in reality we are more ADVANCED. A lone human, with no education, and no tools can not survive in a battle with a dolphin.
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26-12-2010, 11:59 PM
RE: Philosophically, why are human's able to understand the world around us?
(26-12-2010 11:07 PM)TheKetola Wrote:  Well dolphins also use their neocortex, and may actually be smarter than humans, the only difference is that we have bipedalism and oposable thumbs, which allows us to make tools. Through the making of tools, eventually we developed systems of storing information (writing, paintings, DVDs, etc.) and this literacy and stored information, as well as easy communication, makes us seem more intelligent, but in reality we are more ADVANCED. A lone human, with no education, and no tools can not survive in a battle with a dolphin.

A lone human with no tools and no education wouldn't even survive a dinner date with a dolphin Cool (no seriously... A free dolphin can be easily offended if you don't adopt their courtesy system for first impressions xD)

But ya this is a fair point. Human are more advanced, but other creatures out there (though on this particular planet only dolphins and whales which we know of) which have the same awareness and understanding, only we have a solid way of building and storing our culture for people hundreds of years in the future to experience almost directly.

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27-12-2010, 12:45 AM
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Yay I said something intelligent! If only I were a dolphin, that wouldn't be so surprising xP
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27-12-2010, 08:15 AM
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That is looking for a answer where one doesn't exist. It was worded so that you are looking to find purpose and reason behind human intelligent. The problem is, there is no grand and mighty purpose. We evolved higher intelligence because we lucked out.

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27-12-2010, 10:03 AM
 
RE: Philosophically, why are human's able to understand the world around us?
(27-12-2010 08:15 AM)ashley.hunt60 Wrote:  That is looking for a answer where one doesn't exist. It was worded so that you are looking to find purpose and reason behind human intelligent. The problem is, there is no grand and mighty purpose. We evolved higher intelligence because we lucked out.

Sounds like typical catholic apologetics to me. He then gave me a book called "Made for More" by Curtis Martin. It said that humans are made to strive for happiness, and somehow that means we must strive to gain ultimate happiness. (Heaven.) Ultimate Happiness is impossible, also he's making the assumption that heaven actually exists. He also uses the "Lord, Liar, or Lunatic" argument, which I think is a pretty poor argument in and of itself.
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27-12-2010, 04:27 PM
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(26-12-2010 08:17 PM)sjvirchow Wrote:  Remember, I don't want a Biological explanation, a philosophical explanation."

Any ideas?

Your dad's trying to limit your answer to make it impossible for you. Whenever someone says "I don't want you to answer in this way", that's because they know it's an answer they can't refute.

Basically, he wants you to shut up and listen to him. He doesn't want a discussion, and you aren't going to make any headway. There's no point answering him.

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