Plants Could Totally Have Survived Noah's Flood Guize!
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17-09-2013, 11:09 PM
RE: Plants Could Totally Have Survived Noah's Flood Guize!
Noah was really an incarnation of Dr Who and the boat was a tardis.
It says so right here in my Lord Rahn's version of the bible.
Also, the earth wasn't flooded with water, it was flooded with Daleks.

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18-09-2013, 02:13 PM
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So, you are saying there were further no potted plants on the ark, for say, asthetics or a little extra fresh oxygen for those rainy nights?
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18-09-2013, 02:16 PM
 
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(18-09-2013 02:13 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  So, you are saying there were further no potted plants on the ark, for say, asthetics or a little extra fresh oxygen for those rainy nights?

No, we are saying there was no flood, and consequently no ark. Drinking Beverage
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18-09-2013, 02:21 PM
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Shouldn't be too hard to test out AiG's postulate. Let's assume mount Ararat (5 165 meters high) is bigger than an olive tree (15 to 20 meters) for a second. If one is kept underwater for the conservative estimate of 9 months, is it capable of surviving?
Now, to reproduce Flood conditions, it would more likely have to endure around a year under 8-ish kilometers of water (to account for Everest and K2). But let's just say 5 km.
If that poor olive tree survived that, let's not forget this same flood period is when Earth changed shapes from Pangea-ish to today's (or pretty much). Yes that's north and south America getting in their current position from being attached to Eurasia in under a year. No small feat for a dry climate tree when you consider the devastation caused by Japan moving mere centimeters.
Now of course that's just one plant. But since it has a starring role in that very story, might as well use it.
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18-09-2013, 04:03 PM
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(18-09-2013 02:16 PM)Philosoraptor Wrote:  
(18-09-2013 02:13 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  So, you are saying there were further no potted plants on the ark, for say, asthetics or a little extra fresh oxygen for those rainy nights?

No, we are saying there was no flood, and consequently no ark. Drinking Beverage

And to go further, most definitely no 600 year old man who rescued only his family and then proceeded to repopulate the planet with humans via incest.

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18-09-2013, 04:09 PM
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(18-09-2013 02:21 PM)GaëlK7 Wrote:  Shouldn't be too hard to test out AiG's postulate. Let's assume mount Ararat (5 165 meters high) is bigger than an olive tree (15 to 20 meters) for a second. If one is kept underwater for the conservative estimate of 9 months, is it capable of surviving?
Now, to reproduce Flood conditions, it would more likely have to endure around a year under 8-ish kilometers of water (to account for Everest and K2). But let's just say 5 km.
If that poor olive tree survived that, let's not forget this same flood period is when Earth changed shapes from Pangea-ish to today's (or pretty much). Yes that's north and south America getting in their current position from being attached to Eurasia in under a year. No small feat for a dry climate tree when you consider the devastation caused by Japan moving mere centimeters.
Now of course that's just one plant. But since it has a starring role in that very story, might as well use it.

So, what your saying is; we need a tree, a giant 5-odd kilometre high box with tree inside and then we need to add a few metric fuck-tonnes of slightly salted water.

Let's get to it, for science people!

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18-09-2013, 04:15 PM
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(18-09-2013 02:13 PM)PleaseJesus Wrote:  So, you are saying there were further no potted plants on the ark, for say, asthetics or a little extra fresh oxygen for those rainy nights?

Okay, my last post (sorry guys for the three post hit, I just felt these all deserved different replies in an order of interest to me).

So, the bible goes into a really long and boring spiel about Jewsus's genealogy (among other over covered topics), but they couldn't be bothered to include that Noah put plants in the ark? Or perhaps more importantly, the water filtration system he used to supply them with fresh, usable water?

I'm pretty sure if the all-knowing being inspired writers had put, say, the details and schematics of such a device, quite a few less plagues would have occurred... Or at least, there would have been fewer fatalities from them. 'Cause, you know, disease transmission through filthy water is a thing...

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18-09-2013, 10:03 PM (This post was last modified: 18-09-2013 10:07 PM by EvolutionKills.)
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(18-09-2013 04:15 PM)Free Thought Wrote:  So, the bible goes into a really long and boring spiel about Jewsus's genealogy (among other over covered topics), but they couldn't be bothered to include that Noah put plants in the ark?

Another quick question. Why doesn't Jesus genealogy go back to someone that was on the Ark? After all they were the only ones that survived (just ignore the continuous records of the Egyptian and Chinese kingdoms, those are clearly fabrications by god to test our faith)... Drinking Beverage

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19-09-2013, 08:57 AM
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It really is astonishing that some people still believe in the flood. Aside from the overwhelming evidence against the myth, it doesn't even make logical sense that God would have done this.

God created the earth and was pleased.
He created man and woman and was pleased.
He created plants and animals and was pleased.
(Damn, God pats himself on the back way too much... but I digress...)

Various men and women displeased God. So God wiped out everything presumably to start over. He wiped out men, women, plants, and animals alike. Well ok, not everything... he allowed Noah and his family to survive - they came from the category of creations that displeased God, but they were allowed to survive while every plant (plants did not displease God) perished. Nearly every animal (animals did not displease God) perished. Every other human being besides Noah's family (yes humans displeased God, but not every human) perished. Even babies, children, and devout adults perished - all except for Noah's family. People who never even heard of God or had a chance to be devout perished.

Now God, being omnipotent, could have wiped out only the offending humans. It makes no sense that he would have wiped out all the things that he had been pleased about creating when he could have accomplished the same thing by being far more selective.

But there's more... God regretted having made humans (Genesis 6:6). So then, God made a mistake... an omnipotent, omniscient god made a mistake! Hmm... Consider So he flooded the earth to correct his mistake.

Then God made a covenant with Noah to never again flood the earth or destroy all living things by a flood. (Genesis 9:11). But why...? Surely humans could displease God again and why wouldn't he take the same action since he deemed it the best course of action originally. Again, this points to it having been a mistake.

And besides the mistake itself, regret of it is an emotion... a human emotion. God isn't supposed to be human. He is supposed to be perfect and logic dictates that a perfect being would have nothing to regret anyway and so would never experience that emotion.

But, even if we go with that (in some senselessly blind moment of throwing rationality to the wind), if God truly regretted creating humans, why did he let even Noah and his family survive? It would make far more sense for God to wipe out all humans and create something else.

One final note. I can understand how countless people go to church and buy into the Noah story because they don't give it much thought and their local preacher told them it's fact. I understand it because I was religious once myself and know how easy it is to accept the preaching automatically. But how anyone can come to a message board, listen to all the arguments and thus be confronted by the logic and evidence against the myth, and still believe in the face of it all that the flood really happened... it just completely blows my mind. Blink

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19-09-2013, 10:53 AM
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