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27-04-2010, 06:25 AM
 
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hmm the defintion of religion is hard to make because there are so many forms one can only make a family resemblance. i will name some problems and than a few definitions.

first of we can not base our defintion on one specefic ritual/tradition custom to our christian jewish outlook and must be wary of hidden assumptions.

secondly some religions are monotheistic or polytheistic and some dont have a god at all. or do we qualify that as a atheistic religion which sounds paradoxal. so the belief in a god isnt the characteristic of religion.( which is paroxal as a answer too)

and thirdly its tempting to identify religions with churches but other religions do not have similar institutions . and even with in christianity there are huge differences.

this geographical and historical multitude of religious manifestations suggests we risk falling in a misleading etnocentric or essentialism. perhaps we cant talk about it in singular but only in plural form.

now some definitions
religion is the belief in divine creatures

a religion is a coherent system of convictions and practices which have to do with religious/holy things. meaning things that are seperated and illegal , convictions and practices who have the same moral community, which is called church, and all those who are involved with it, belief in it

religion are feelings, practices and experiences of individuals in solitude. as far as they understand themselves as standing in a relation to whatever they call the divine.

religion is a whole of rituals rationalised by myths that bring supernatural powers into motion with as goal to achieve change in the condition of man or nature.

religion is the sum of human atempts to understand the presumed unperceptible forces., to honor and influence this by forms of communication.

take you pick which you like best and demolish the rest.
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27-04-2010, 07:50 AM
 
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What is a trinity?
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27-04-2010, 08:27 AM
 
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do you mean the son the father and the holy ghost.

if so yeah i got no clue either that one has puzzled me for ages.
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27-04-2010, 08:34 AM
 
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Right, how many is the trinity?
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27-04-2010, 09:24 PM
 
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Here's how a Christian site explains it...still doesn't make any sense (shakes head violently, in hopes that the 'etch-a-sketch' effect will take hold):

[Image: the-trinity-diagram.jpg]
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27-04-2010, 09:27 PM
 
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...Wouldn't that make four distinct entities here alone?
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27-04-2010, 09:30 PM
 
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(27-04-2010 09:27 PM)Ceryle Wrote:  ...Wouldn't that make four distinct entities here alone?

A monkey can pick that out! (not to demean monkeys in the process, of course) Smile
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27-04-2010, 09:44 PM
 
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(27-04-2010 09:30 PM)supermanlives1973 Wrote:  
(27-04-2010 09:27 PM)Ceryle Wrote:  ...Wouldn't that make four distinct entities here alone?

A monkey can pick that out! (not to demean monkeys in the process, of course) Smile

Really...Anyone else find fault with what these two saying? Never mind, I will do it myself.

The Father IS God
The Son IS God
The Holy Spirit IS God

How many does that add up to? Never mind don't want to piss off Unbeliever for not answering! The answer is three. So maybe a monkey could pick it out, you could not! Apologize to the monkeys.
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27-04-2010, 09:47 PM
 
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If an incorporeal entity 'becomes' another entity for a short period of time, it is no longer a singular entity anymore. Let alone, that these entities are separate and distinct from one another; as well as in a state of continuous existence.
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27-04-2010, 09:51 PM
 
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(27-04-2010 09:47 PM)Ceryle Wrote:  If an incorporeal entity 'becomes' another entity for a short period of time, it is no longer a singular entity anymore. Let alone, that these entities are separate and distinct from one another; as well as in a state of continuous existence.

Your definition of "incorporeal entity" please
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