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11-11-2015, 02:38 PM
RE: Please Help a Future Military Chaplain
No one who knows a thing about what the USCG actually does on a daily basis would ever call them pussies! I grew up on an island, and I've known quite a few Coasties. The things they're called to do, in inclement weather and on dangerous (sometimes burning) boats, doing constant inspections on vessels that may contain men who'd rather murder them than risk going to jail for smuggling... that's not even counting the active Drug War stuff they do.

I don't envy those guys one bit!

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11-11-2015, 04:26 PM (This post was last modified: 11-11-2015 04:33 PM by Chas.)
RE: Please Help a Future Military Chaplain
(11-11-2015 09:51 AM)jason_delisle Wrote:  
(11-11-2015 07:46 AM)Chas Wrote:  Chaplin school?

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Catholics are christened at birth. It is not exactly viewed as a baptism. It is later when a catholic goes through confirmation are they then baptized.

That is not correct.

Catholics practice infant baptism.

Christening == baptizing

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11-11-2015, 05:15 PM
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(11-11-2015 04:26 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(11-11-2015 09:51 AM)jason_delisle Wrote:  Catholics are christened at birth. It is not exactly viewed as a baptism. It is later when a catholic goes through confirmation are they then baptized.

That is not correct.

Catholics practice infant baptism.

Christening == baptizing

Baptism vs. Christening

Even though the words baptism and christening are used interchangeably, there is a subtle difference. Christening refers to the naming ceremony (to "christen" means to "give a name to") where as baptism is one of seven sacraments in the Catholic Church.

In the sacrament of Baptism the baby's name is used and mentioned, however it is the rite of claiming the child for Christ and his Church that is celebrated.

Baptism represents a deliberate act of identification with the person of Jesus Christ and his Church. This decision implies a personal relationship with Jesus that requires nurturing through such things as worship, prayer, Bible study and other spiritual disciplines.

Basically you are right, a christening is also called "infant baptism" but it is not entirely the same as a baptism at confirmation. The christening in more traditional in nature and is believed to remove "original sin". However the infant is obviously too young to have learned about Jesus and is not competent enough to have made the deliberate decision to accept him. The baptism is done during the sacrament of confirmation where a member goes through 2 years of school to learn about The Catechism of the Catholic Church (church doctrine ). Once they have received their training they then are able to make the decision for themselves if they want to accept Jesus. Then comes their baptism.

Here is the link from the Vatican if you feel like some light reading.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/ar...s2c1a1.htm
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11-11-2015, 07:04 PM
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(11-11-2015 12:42 PM)jason_delisle Wrote:  
(11-11-2015 12:00 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  You outrank him you fucking pussy.
Yes. But the Colonial who made the request and approved it out ranked me.

Can someone 'splain to me the difference between a colonel and a colonial ?
Are they REALLY old service people, or do they enlist them from the colonies ?

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11-11-2015, 07:17 PM (This post was last modified: 11-11-2015 07:47 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Please Help a Future Military Chaplain
(11-11-2015 05:15 PM)jason_delisle Wrote:  
(11-11-2015 04:26 PM)Chas Wrote:  That is not correct.

Catholics practice infant baptism.

Christening == baptizing

Baptism vs. Christening

Even though the words baptism and christening are used interchangeably, there is a subtle difference. Christening refers to the naming ceremony (to "christen" means to "give a name to") where as baptism is one of seven sacraments in the Catholic Church.

In the sacrament of Baptism the baby's name is used and mentioned, however it is the rite of claiming the child for Christ and his Church that is celebrated.

Baptism represents a deliberate act of identification with the person of Jesus Christ and his Church. This decision implies a personal relationship with Jesus that requires nurturing through such things as worship, prayer, Bible study and other spiritual disciplines.

Basically you are right, a christening is also called "infant baptism" but it is not entirely the same as a baptism at confirmation. The christening in more traditional in nature and is believed to remove "original sin". However the infant is obviously too young to have learned about Jesus and is not competent enough to have made the deliberate decision to accept him. The baptism is done during the sacrament of confirmation where a member goes through 2 years of school to learn about The Catechism of the Catholic Church (church doctrine ). Once they have received their training they then are able to make the decision for themselves if they want to accept Jesus. Then comes their baptism.

Here is the link from the Vatican if you feel like some light reading.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/ar...s2c1a1.htm

That is totally absolutely completely wrong.
Infant baptism is the ONLY baptism that Catholics get, if they are baptized as children in the church, and the link provided says NOTHING to support the claim. There is NO POINT in the Roman Catholic Confirmation service that infant baptism is "elevated" or changed or made "better". Catholics are proud of the label "cradle Catholic''. Infant baptism is "fully baptized". There are a number of times throughout the (liturgical) year that baptismal promises are "renewed", but it's done by EVERYONE, children and adults at various services, (including confirmation) and the Easter Vigil.

Ask any priest. You're just dead wrong.

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11-11-2015, 07:19 PM (This post was last modified: 11-11-2015 07:23 PM by Full Circle.)
RE: Please Help a Future Military Chaplain
(11-11-2015 05:15 PM)jason_delisle Wrote:  
(11-11-2015 04:26 PM)Chas Wrote:  That is not correct.

Catholics practice infant baptism.

Christening == baptizing

Baptism vs. Christening

Even though the words baptism and christening are used interchangeably, there is a subtle difference. Christening refers to the naming ceremony (to "christen" means to "give a name to") where as baptism is one of seven sacraments in the Catholic Church.

In the sacrament of Baptism the baby's name is used and mentioned, however it is the rite of claiming the child for Christ and his Church that is celebrated.

Baptism represents a deliberate act of identification with the person of Jesus Christ and his Church. This decision implies a personal relationship with Jesus that requires nurturing through such things as worship, prayer, Bible study and other spiritual disciplines.

Basically you are right, a christening is also called "infant baptism" but it is not entirely the same as a baptism at confirmation. The christening in more traditional in nature and is believed to remove "original sin". However the infant is obviously too young to have learned about Jesus and is not competent enough to have made the deliberate decision to accept him. The baptism is done during the sacrament of confirmation where a member goes through 2 years of school to learn about The Catechism of the Catholic Church (church doctrine ). Once they have received their training they then are able to make the decision for themselves if they want to accept Jesus. Then comes their baptism.

Here is the link from the Vatican if you feel like some light reading.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/ar...s2c1a1.htm

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PS I stand by what I linked earlier, Catholics are baptized as infants, we are later confirmed but this is not a 2nd baptism, it is a “deepening of babtismal gifts”, whatever the fuck that means.

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11-11-2015, 07:25 PM
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(11-11-2015 07:04 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(11-11-2015 12:42 PM)jason_delisle Wrote:  Yes. But the Colonial who made the request and approved it out ranked me.

Can someone 'splain to me the difference between a colonel and a colonial ?
Are they REALLY old service people, or do they enlist them from the colonies ?
Bwahahaha. Darn autocorrect.
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11-11-2015, 07:25 PM
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Canon Law forbids rebaptism, in any form.
http://canonlawmadeeasy.com/2010/03/11/d...ebaptized/

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11-11-2015, 07:26 PM
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(11-11-2015 07:17 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(11-11-2015 05:15 PM)jason_delisle Wrote:  Baptism vs. Christening

Even though the words baptism and christening are used interchangeably, there is a subtle difference. Christening refers to the naming ceremony (to "christen" means to "give a name to") where as baptism is one of seven sacraments in the Catholic Church.

In the sacrament of Baptism the baby's name is used and mentioned, however it is the rite of claiming the child for Christ and his Church that is celebrated.

Baptism represents a deliberate act of identification with the person of Jesus Christ and his Church. This decision implies a personal relationship with Jesus that requires nurturing through such things as worship, prayer, Bible study and other spiritual disciplines.

Basically you are right, a christening is also called "infant baptism" but it is not entirely the same as a baptism at confirmation. The christening in more traditional in nature and is believed to remove "original sin". However the infant is obviously too young to have learned about Jesus and is not competent enough to have made the deliberate decision to accept him. The baptism is done during the sacrament of confirmation where a member goes through 2 years of school to learn about The Catechism of the Catholic Church (church doctrine ). Once they have received their training they then are able to make the decision for themselves if they want to accept Jesus. Then comes their baptism.

Here is the link from the Vatican if you feel like some light reading.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/ar...s2c1a1.htm

That is totally absolutely completely wrong.
Infant baptism is the ONLY baptism that Catholics get, if they are baptized as children in the church, and the link provided says NOTHING to support the claim. There is NO POINT in the Roman Catholic Confirmation service that infant baptism is "elevated" or changed or made "better". Catholics are proud of the label "cradle Catholic''. Infant baptism is "fully baptized". There are a number of times throughout the (liturgical) year that baptismal promises are "renewed", but it's done by EVERYONE, children and adults at various services, (including confirmation) and the Easter Vigil.

Ask any priest. Your just dead wrong.
Look at the link. It is from the vatican. I will make sure to tell the pope he is wrong.

Not to mention the post was a copy paste from a catholic website so.....Tongue
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11-11-2015, 07:31 PM
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(11-11-2015 07:26 PM)jason_delisle Wrote:  
(11-11-2015 07:17 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  That is totally absolutely completely wrong.
Infant baptism is the ONLY baptism that Catholics get, if they are baptized as children in the church, and the link provided says NOTHING to support the claim. There is NO POINT in the Roman Catholic Confirmation service that infant baptism is "elevated" or changed or made "better". Catholics are proud of the label "cradle Catholic''. Infant baptism is "fully baptized". There are a number of times throughout the (liturgical) year that baptismal promises are "renewed", but it's done by EVERYONE, children and adults at various services, (including confirmation) and the Easter Vigil.

Ask any priest. Your just dead wrong.
Look at the link. It is from the vatican. I will make sure to tell the pope he is wrong.

Not to mention the post was a copy paste from a catholic website so.....Tongue

I read the link. It doesn't say what you think it says. Copy here the portion you think supports your claim. Sorry. It's just not there.
The Pope didn't write it, and I KNOW he doesn't agree with you. As I said. Ask any priest .... or call the Pope.

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