Please present a better explanation for our existence than Theism
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27-05-2011, 09:57 AM
RE: Please present a better explanation for our existence than Theism
(27-05-2011 06:58 AM)The_observer Wrote:  ElShadai
You remind me of a quote I read somewhere:
Debating with a creationist is like playing chess with a pigeon
you make the correct move and he topples over the pieces, shits on the board
flies off and claims a victory
(I don't know who said this)

Great quote, wonder where I first saw it... describes my feelings for ElShadai


Now for the debate

@ElShadai:
You have failed to answer my questions. And even when you answered, you just avoided the question. You've done this to most forum members. Therefore, I will not continue the debate until you give a complete (and scientifically backed) answer to all relevant questions. If you think it's too much work, pray to Jesus, the guy does miracles, doesn't he?


On the brighter side; due to your debating skills, I hereby decorate you with this medal. Wear it with honor, so that people can see you coming from a mile away.

[Image: pain-ass-medal.jpg]


I also have a €200 check for you that goes with the award. You can get it @ my place. Ask Jesus for directions. You've got 'till after happy hour.

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27-05-2011, 10:10 AM
RE: Please present a better explanation for our existence than Theism
(27-05-2011 09:57 AM)Thammuz Wrote:  I also have a €200 check for you that goes with the award. You can get it @ my place. Ask Jesus for directions. You've got 'till after happy hour.

I haven't laughed like that in a while... Thank you sir! Big Grin
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27-05-2011, 11:00 AM
RE: Please present a better explanation for our existence than Theism
(27-05-2011 09:57 AM)Thammuz Wrote:  
(27-05-2011 06:58 AM)The_observer Wrote:  ElShadai
You remind me of a quote I read somewhere:
Debating with a creationist is like playing chess with a pigeon
you make the correct move and he topples over the pieces, shits on the board
flies off and claims a victory
(I don't know who said this)

Great quote, wonder where I first saw it...

ThetaOmega's YouTube channel, probably.

"Owl," said Rabbit shortly, "you and I have brains. The others have fluff. If there is any thinking to be done in this Forest - and when I say thinking I mean thinking - you and I must do it."
- A. A. Milne, The House at Pooh Corner
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27-05-2011, 12:16 PM
RE: Please present a better explanation for our existence than Theism
(27-05-2011 11:00 AM)Unbeliever Wrote:  
(27-05-2011 09:57 AM)Thammuz Wrote:  
(27-05-2011 06:58 AM)The_observer Wrote:  ElShadai
You remind me of a quote I read somewhere:
Debating with a creationist is like playing chess with a pigeon
you make the correct move and he topples over the pieces, shits on the board
flies off and claims a victory
(I don't know who said this)

Great quote, wonder where I first saw it...

ThetaOmega's YouTube channel, probably.
I Googled some and found it here

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28-05-2011, 07:10 PM (This post was last modified: 28-05-2011 07:59 PM by ashley.hunt60.)
RE: Please present a better explanation for our existence than Theism
I have no idea if you'll ever post again, but I see that you were just on yesterday, and I found a decent video explaining this in what I find a clear manner. Hopefully, since you are at least still going here, you'll go ahead and watch this and maybe learn something.




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28-05-2011, 07:29 PM (This post was last modified: 28-05-2011 07:41 PM by Buddy Christ.)
RE: Please present a better explanation for our existence than Theism
Great quote from that AtheistExperience video that I never considered. "There's no point in trying to talk about 'before time' because that's a direct contradiction. 'Before' is an application of time."

Those are the kinds of statements that make me ponder for a minute, go "hmmm," and feel smarter while taking a long draw from my pipe.


Edit: And he really didn't need to do any homework for debate with Frank Turek. That guy "debates" by making terrible jokes, trying to get the audience on his side ("is anyone here from Jersey, yeah Jersey represent!"), and just completely misunderstand the atheist position (aka the Theist method of debating). He's a car salesman, not an honest debater of concepts.




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28-05-2011, 11:33 PM
RE: Please present a better explanation for our existence than Theism
Frank Turek is a living example of the debate technique of spewing so much shit you just can't refute it all.

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29-05-2011, 07:09 AM
 
RE: Please present a better explanation for our existence than Theism
(28-05-2011 07:29 PM)Buddy Christ Wrote:  Great quote from that AtheistExperience video that I never considered. "There's no point in trying to talk about 'before time' because that's a direct contradiction. 'Before' is an application of time."

thats correct. " beyond " the Big Bang is a better term. So what ?


(27-05-2011 06:58 AM)The_observer Wrote:  Dude...
You are one hell of a shape-shifter. You start by asking a serious question and when you see all your counter arguments are refuted or proven incorrect,

my answers have been proven wrong ? you make me laugh.

Please show these answers, and how they debunk mines.
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29-05-2011, 08:36 AM
 
RE: Please present a better explanation for our existence than Theism
(29-05-2011 07:09 AM)ElShadai Wrote:  my answers have been proven wrong ? you make me laugh.

Please show these answers, and how they debunk mines.

Thanks for the compelling offer but no. I prefer to let this thread die instead. Kkthnxbb. Cool
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29-05-2011, 10:28 AM
RE: Please present a better explanation for our existence than Theism
(29-05-2011 07:09 AM)ElShadai Wrote:  thats correct. " beyond " the Big Bang is a better term. So what ?

So talking about God existing "before" the universe is nonsensical.

(29-05-2011 07:09 AM)ElShadai Wrote:  my answers have been proven wrong ? you make me laugh.

Please show these answers, and how they debunk mines.

So you don't read any of our replies, then. Thanks for clearing that up.

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