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13-03-2013, 05:11 AM
Please present explanations which make philosophical naturalism plausible
Please present evidence, that makes naturalistic explanations plausible in regard of :

the existence and origin of the universe
its fine tuning
existence of planets
chemical evolution
abiogenesis
sex
morals
conscience
the hability of speech
complex and codified information stored in DNA
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13-03-2013, 05:59 AM (This post was last modified: 13-03-2013 06:04 AM by EvolutionKills.)
RE: Please present explanations which make philosophical naturalism plausible
(13-03-2013 05:11 AM)Godexists Wrote:  Please present evidence, that makes naturalistic explanations plausible in regard of :

the existence and origin of the universe
its fine tuning
existence of planets
chemical evolution
abiogenesis
sex
morals
conscience
the hability of speech
complex and codified information stored in DNA

1. Origin - We only have hypothesis built around our current understanding of cosmology and quantum mechanics. This is one of the cutting edges of theoretical physics. Nobody knows for certain, and probably never will (and that includes anybody claiming divine knowledge too).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

2. Fine Tuning - This is a false assumption, first you must prove that the constants could change, before you can argue that they have been 'fine tuned'.

3. Existence of Planets - Millions/Billions of years, gravity, and accretion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accretion_(astrophysics)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_formation

4. Chemical Evolution - Chemicals don't evolve on their own, as they are not self replicating. Self replicating molecules can and do evolve, and that is biological evolution vis-a-vis DNA and RNA.

5. Abiogenesis - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

6. Sex - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_sex

7. Morals - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_morality

8. Conscience - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscience

9. Speech - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech

10. DNA - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA


As a side note, you could have saved yourself a LOT of time and energy if you actually went out looking for the information, instead of jumping into an atheist forum and started asking loaded questions. That is, if you're actually interested in learning, and not in making an opening salvo for your prosthelytizing.

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13-03-2013, 06:10 AM
RE: Please present explanations which make philosophical naturalism plausible
Define existence.
Then explain, in non-temporal terms, how that is possible, and in doing so use no word or concept that invokes space-time.
Good luck.

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13-03-2013, 06:14 AM
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13-03-2013, 06:24 AM
RE: Please present explanations which make philosophical naturalism plausible
(13-03-2013 06:14 AM)Vosur Wrote:  Post Date: Today, 05:11 AM
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13-03-2013, 07:13 AM
RE: Please present explanations which make philosophical naturalism plausible
I like how he asks about sex when asexual reproduction would actually be more ideal (given a stable environment that a presumably loving god could provide).

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13-03-2013, 08:10 AM (This post was last modified: 13-03-2013 08:15 AM by Full Circle.)
RE: Please present explanations which make philosophical naturalism plausible
(13-03-2013 05:11 AM)Godexists Wrote:  Please present evidence, that makes naturalistic explanations plausible in regard of :

the hability of speech

Why are you using the obsolete form of "ability"?

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13-03-2013, 08:32 AM
RE: Please present explanations which make philosophical naturalism plausible
(13-03-2013 05:11 AM)Godexists Wrote:  Please present evidence, that makes naturalistic explanations plausible in regard of :

the existence and origin of the universe
its fine tuning
existence of planets
chemical evolution
abiogenesis
sex
morals
conscience
the hability of speech
complex and codified information stored in DNA
You're expecting meaningful answers to all of that on a messageboard? Laughat Books have been written on those subjects - many great ones - I suggest you read some of those since you obviously haven't done so already.

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13-03-2013, 08:49 AM
RE: Please present explanations which make philosophical naturalism plausible
(13-03-2013 06:14 AM)Vosur Wrote:  Post Date: Today, 05:11 AM
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That's why I didn't do much more that browse Wikipedia, as I'm pretty sure it's not worth more effort than that. The OP just reeks of someone not looking to learn, but rather looking to pick a fight. I hope to be pleasantly surprised, but I don't expect to be. Anyone truly curious and capable of creating an account and posting on this forum, would be more than able to use Google to find these answers on their own if they cared to.

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13-03-2013, 09:29 AM
RE: Please present explanations which make philosophical naturalism plausible
(13-03-2013 07:13 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  I like how he asks about sex when asexual reproduction would actually be more ideal (given a stable environment that a presumably loving god could provide).
So why then should evolution have chosen sex, rather than asexual reproduction, given that sex is much less efficient, and more complicated ?
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