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07-11-2012, 07:08 PM (This post was last modified: 07-11-2012 07:13 PM by earmuffs.)
RE: Ponder me this TTA science geeks
Quote:But otherwise you're right on. I mean, really. Why should I believe
Brian Greene or Neil Degrasse Tyson or Michio Kaku or Lawrence Krause
when you've already gotten it all figured out.

And so we should suck up everything they say like they shit rainbows?
That makes us better then theists how?


You can't riggle out of it by saying "it's not this one" because we're talking about infinite here.
Logically speaking whatever happens to one happens to us because there's a multiverse doing the same but to another multiverse etc..
So say there is multiverse 1-10
1,2,3,4,5 are all doing their thing. 6 comes along and decides to kill all humans in 1. 7 then decides to do the same to 2 etc...

To say that it happened else where means it didn't happen here which means there's not an "infinite" number.
Because if there is infinite possibilities then no rock is left unturned and not killing us 5seconds from now would be leaving a rock unturned.

I'm not saying it's impossible, I just saying logically speaking "infinite" is impossible, doesn't mean the number's not just really big.

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07-11-2012, 07:32 PM
RE: Ponder me this TTA science geeks
As I said, Earmuffs, there are different sizes of infinity.

The infinite number of possible universes is an infinitely larger infinity than the infinite number of possible universes where inter-universal travel is possible.

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07-11-2012, 07:39 PM
RE: Ponder me this TTA science geeks
You can't have different sizes of infinite.
Infinite is infinite.

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07-11-2012, 07:43 PM
RE: Ponder me this TTA science geeks
Yes you can.


The infinite number of integers between 0 and infinity

Is smaller than

The infinite number of real numbers between 0 and infinity

Because for every integer number there is an infinite number of real numbers.

E 2 = (mc 2)2 + (pc )2
614C → 714N + e + ̅νe
2 K(s) + 2 H2O(l) → 2 KOH(aq) + H2 (g) + 196 kJ/mol
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07-11-2012, 07:44 PM
RE: Ponder me this TTA science geeks
(07-11-2012 07:32 PM)Phaedrus Wrote:  As I said, Earmuffs, there are different sizes of infinity.

The infinite number of possible universes is an infinitely larger infinity than the infinite number of possible universes where inter-universal travel is possible.
How can you have different size infinitys?

Is that not long having different size pints, centimeters, inches etc etc.

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07-11-2012, 07:48 PM
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There is an infinite number of integers from 0 to infinity. 0, 1, 2, 3, 4... 999.. 4,153,063... 93,633,823,968,230,088,000,239... etc.


However, there is an infinite number of real numbers between 0 and 1. 0.01, 0.00012285, 0.259832, 0.99999..., 0.23482234822348223482..., 0.02, 0.2000329, etc.


Since for every integer there is an infinite number of real numbers, that means that there are infinitely many more real numbers than there are integers

Which means that the infinite number of real numbers is larger than the infinite number of integer numbers. Ergo, different sizes of infinity.

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614C → 714N + e + ̅νe
2 K(s) + 2 H2O(l) → 2 KOH(aq) + H2 (g) + 196 kJ/mol
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07-11-2012, 07:51 PM
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But you can't have a fraction of a universe.
In another multiverse if you were to have a fraction of this, that would be a whole universe just smaller then ours.

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07-11-2012, 07:52 PM
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(07-11-2012 07:39 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  You can't have different sizes of infinite.
Infinite is infinite.
Yes, you can. There is an infinite number of infinities. The smallest infinity is the cardinality (size) of the set of natural numbers, then the number of real numbers (which is the same cardinality as the power set of the set of naturals), then the power set of the real numbers, then its power set, and so on.

A power set is the set of all subsets of a set, and its cardinality is 2^n, where n is the cardinality of the original set.

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07-11-2012, 07:53 PM
RE: Ponder me this TTA science geeks
Who's talking about fractions? We're talking about multiple universes, and how the number of possible universes is infinitely larger than the number of possible universes with inter-universal travel, even though both numbers are infinite.

E 2 = (mc 2)2 + (pc )2
614C → 714N + e + ̅νe
2 K(s) + 2 H2O(l) → 2 KOH(aq) + H2 (g) + 196 kJ/mol
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07-11-2012, 07:54 PM
RE: Ponder me this TTA science geeks
Fuck the math, k? You're not communicating anything with it. And like Muffs said, the theory is fucking stupid.

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