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05-12-2011, 05:56 AM
Pope’s ok with child porn.
The pope;
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/w...35449.html
Seriously, people listen to this crackpot?

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05-12-2011, 06:21 AM
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I wonder if he is senile at this point. Seriously, who would disagree that paedophilia is right there on top of the list of the most heinous crimes. And he's making it out to be "a societal norm".
And this is their "moral authority". Disgusting.

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05-12-2011, 12:48 PM
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Hes right in that it wasnt considered an “absolute evil” as people used to believe that such a thing never happened especially when the church was involved, which is one of the reasons that child abuse at the hands of the church was ignored for such a long time. its downright disgusting.

But claiming that child pornography was increasingly considered “normal” by society Is just sick. It sounds like hes trying to down play the church child abuse scandels as nothing. But what more can you expect from a nazi, pedophile protecting hypocrite.

I think its time the itallian police had a look at the harddrives of the vatican computers.

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05-12-2011, 01:07 PM
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doubtful to happen as most of the Italian police are catholic aren't they? Plus the pope is the word of god in human form isn't he?

Pope John Paul the Jerk

Religion... in Italy of all places?

Unfortunately the pope is probably right in saying that child pornography is in a state of rise. But that doesn't mean it should be. Or that it hasn't been before too.
On the rise?
There are two levels of morality neither of which the bible has anything to do with. As far as I'm concerned the first level of morality is the one dealing with absolutes. These are things most everyone agrees with minus maybe some sociopaths and people with mental disorders. I classify them as things we would not want done to us.
The second level is the level having to do with societal norms, or the popular vote. Age of consent is one of those fluctuations that society has complete control over. What we consider to be a child now, we didn't used to. 13 year old girls would be married and doing homely things like getting beat for not scrubbing the dirt floor often enough in a 24 hour day. Things change. But we can't pretend that they won't change back either.
Society has been spreading the message of greed and self absorption for years now. Complain about the commercialization of christmas but it's life that is commercialized. We espouse poor values upon our children and teach them what it is to be human. So when they start dressing like little versions of the characters from sex and the city and carrying around cell phones before their tenth birthdays, all the adults seem to forget that it's just like dress up to them, they don't grasp what it means. Not to mention that the adults forget that they are still children. They should be treated as children. We strip them of their innocence at such an early age that they don't know what they are, and we don't know how to treat them or who to blame.

What the fuck am I ranting about. Sorry, it happened again. I get so worked up about pedophilia and the childhood issue. I can't stand people who think kids shouldn't be kids, or treated like the kids they really want to be.

Anyways pie.

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05-12-2011, 05:57 PM
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I don't know what sickens me more. The fact that Ratzinger has tried to play down the seriousness of child porn, especially after everything that has transpired around him and his church in the past few years, or the fact that I'm not even remotely surprised by it.

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05-12-2011, 08:18 PM (This post was last modified: 05-12-2011 08:23 PM by defacto7.)
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I do not believe it's true that there was ever a level of social normality to pedophilia at any level in or around the 1970's in the western world. But IF it were true, IF there were statistics to show such a thing in the 1970's, what reason would he have for bringing it up? What reason could there be for him to mention it? Why would it need to be mentioned in any context like this? One good reason? The only reason?

Pass the buck....

He and his cronies are not only jerks... They Are Stupid!

FMS... The Italians can do nothing about it. The Vatican is a sovereign state. The Pope is king of their country.

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05-12-2011, 09:11 PM
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(05-12-2011 08:18 PM)defacto7 Wrote:  I do not believe it's true that there was ever a level of social normality to pedophilia at any level in or around the 1970's in the western world. But IF it were true, IF there were statistics to show such a thing in the 1970's, what reason would he have for bringing it up? What reason could there be for him to mention it? Why would it need to be mentioned in any context like this? One good reason? The only reason?

Pass the buck....

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FMS... The Italians can do nothing about it. The Vatican is a sovereign state. The Pope is king of their country.

I heard you could invade other countries.
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05-12-2011, 11:12 PM
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(05-12-2011 09:11 PM)mysticjbyrd Wrote:  I heard you could invade other countries.

Only the United States does that.

The Vatican army looks too mean, all those Swiss guards you know. Those long sticks sure scare me. Makes you wonder what they do with those things? and to whom. Dodgy

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06-12-2011, 07:13 AM
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Even if it was socially acceptable at one time that doesn't have any bearing on events nowadays. A lot of things that are regarded as major crimes now were, at one time or other, socially acceptable (rape, murder, cannibalism etc), you wouldn't accept that from a defence lawyer at a murder trial. Why would we accept that as defence from the Pope?

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06-12-2011, 11:28 AM
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You want to hear a real twist? Think about the ramifications of this one...

I made a statement above that "I don't believe it's true that there was ever a level of social normality to pedophilia at any level in or around the 1970's in the western world". I had to word it that way... I said, in the western world. How many people know that in Afghanistan, for a grown man to have a "boy" friend is considered a sign of prestige or something to be admired? For adult men to have young boys as sex toys is even encouraged. This is also true to a lesser extent in other Islamic and African countries. It's reasoned by some that it's a way to conform to Islamic law by giving men a sexual outlet that allows young girls to remain virgins, and cut down on adultery, and curtail out right masturbation, and (this is the big one) because women are innately "dirty, filthy and should not be used for any other purpose than procreation".

Add this to your world view...

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