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10-06-2015, 05:46 PM
Pope Creates Child Abuse Tribunal.. What a Farce!
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/pope...ar-BBkUUtd

Quote:Initially the complaints would be investigated by one of three Vatican departments, depending on whose jurisdiction the bishops were under.

They would then be judged by the doctrinal department.

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The panel was set up by Pope Francis in 2013 to help dioceses improve abuse prevention measures and support victims. It is made up of 17 clerics and lay people from around the world.

So, it sounds like they are basically investigating themselves from what I can tell. No outside oversight to call foul when they decide to do absolutely nothing, and cover up even more crap. What a joke.
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10-06-2015, 06:27 PM
RE: Pope Creates Child Abuse Tribunal.. What a Farce!
I can't remember if this is discussed elsewhere on the forum, so I'll ask here.

Do Bishops/Cardinals/etc... enjoy some form of diplomatic immunity for their affiliation with the Vatican City State, or could they be arrested and sent to our prisons without violating international law? Or Germany's prisons, or Ireland's?

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11-06-2015, 07:25 AM
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I'd just like to see the people get turned over to the authorities for investigation, you know, like it works for everyone else in the world not protected by a multinational institution.
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14-06-2015, 10:00 PM
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"I'm da pope, so me and my mates don't have to live by the same rules as the rest of the civilised world. We invent our own rules; we fuck you over and then fuck your kids, and we're not accountable to anyone"
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14-06-2015, 10:20 PM
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Well why not? We have criminals making our laws,and thieves running our banks. Makes sense.
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14-06-2015, 10:33 PM
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(10-06-2015 06:27 PM)TheGulegon Wrote:  I can't remember if this is discussed elsewhere on the forum, so I'll ask here.

Do Bishops/Cardinals/etc... enjoy some form of diplomatic immunity for their affiliation with the Vatican City State, or could they be arrested and sent to our prisons without violating international law? Or Germany's prisons, or Ireland's?

Bubba's lookin pretty lonely! Just sayin!

The Holy See (Latin: Sancta Sedes; Ecclesiastical Latin: [ˈsaŋkta ˈsedes]) is the ecclesiastical jurisdiction of the Catholic Church in Rome, the episcopal see of the Bishop of Rome—the Pope. It is the central point of reference for the church everywhere and the focal point of communion due to its prominence. It traces its origin to the apostolic era, when Saint Peter arrived in Rome to evangelize, thus forming a community of believers there which maintained a significant Christian presence. Today, it is responsible for the governance of the faithful, organized in their local Christian communities.
The Holy See is viewed as analogous to a sovereign state, having a centralized government called the Roman Curia with the Secretary of State as its chief administrator and various departments essential to administration comparable to ministries and executive departments. It enters diplomatic relations with states, and has Vatican City as its sovereign territory.
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14-06-2015, 11:53 PM
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That's like setting up a Nazi blue ribbon panel on Jew abuse.

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14-06-2015, 11:59 PM
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I'd like to see the Church prosecuted in America under our RICO statutes.

Pie-in-the-sky, I know ... but one can dream.
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15-06-2015, 12:08 AM
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(14-06-2015 11:59 PM)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:  I'd like to see the Church prosecuted in America under our RICO statutes.

Pie-in-the-sky, I know ... but one can dream.

Hell, I'd just be happy if Catholic priests had to register as agents of a foreign power. (Yes, that's a thing. If you're in this country with the primary job of doing the work of another country, you have to register as such.) Because recognizing Catholicism as a religion AND a nation and giving it the protections of both goes so far beyond equality under the law that it defies my ability to craft a humorous metaphor, and there should be a downside.
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15-06-2015, 01:20 AM
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They actually have a book that is given out to all the priests that give all the procedures on how to cover up the evidence when a priest is accused of child abuse. An actual book with a hardback cover and everything.


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