Pope Creates Child Abuse Tribunal.. What a Farce!
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15-06-2015, 05:48 AM
RE: Pope Creates Child Abuse Tribunal.. What a Farce!
(14-06-2015 10:33 PM)Banjo Wrote:  
(10-06-2015 06:27 PM)TheGulegon Wrote:  I can't remember if this is discussed elsewhere on the forum, so I'll ask here.

Do Bishops/Cardinals/etc... enjoy some form of diplomatic immunity for their affiliation with the Vatican City State, or could they be arrested and sent to our prisons without violating international law? Or Germany's prisons, or Ireland's?

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The victims and their families are protected by their country's laws...at least they should be. The perpetrator's laws and judicial system are irrelevant. The abuse happened outside the Vatican, so each country's police should chase down and persecute law breakers.
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15-06-2015, 05:50 AM
RE: Pope Creates Child Abuse Tribunal.. What a Farce!
(15-06-2015 05:48 AM)Mark Fulton Wrote:  The victims and their families are protected by their country's laws...at least they should be. The perpetrator's laws and judicial system are irrelevant. The abuse happened outside the Vatican, so each country's police should chase down and persecute law breakers.

One would hope so. Sadly these vile creatures are a protected species for the most part.

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15-06-2015, 08:58 AM
RE: Pope Creates Child Abuse Tribunal.. What a Farce!
...Holy fuck, really? Priests and all those other bullshit peddlers can't be punished via the justice system of wherever they're actually living? Why?

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15-06-2015, 11:26 AM
RE: Pope Creates Child Abuse Tribunal.. What a Farce!
(15-06-2015 08:58 AM)CleverUsername Wrote:  ...Holy fuck, really? Priests and all those other bullshit peddlers can't be punished via the justice system of wherever they're actually living? Why?

Because the Vatican issues them fresh passports and helps them abscond before they can be brought to a potentially embarrassing trial.
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15-06-2015, 12:15 PM
RE: Pope Creates Child Abuse Tribunal.. What a Farce!
(15-06-2015 08:58 AM)CleverUsername Wrote:  ...Holy fuck, really? Priests and all those other bullshit peddlers can't be punished via the justice system of wherever they're actually living? Why?

Legally, they can be prosecuted. The scandal, of course, was that the Catholic hierarchy was moving them to different jurisdictions before their crimes came to light, so that the priests remained free ... free to molest more children.
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15-06-2015, 03:27 PM
RE: Pope Creates Child Abuse Tribunal.. What a Farce!
They just revealed the lead on the case.

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15-06-2015, 05:44 PM
RE: Pope Creates Child Abuse Tribunal.. What a Farce!
The one thing some pervert priest can be assured of with a vatican court is that he will be tried by his "peers."

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