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24-10-2015, 01:30 PM
Portugal no longer a democracy?
If you have a chance have a read of this article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/econo...power.html

In short, the state,"has taken the explicit step of forbidding eurosceptic parties from taking office on the grounds of national interest.".

Europe is really going to shit right now, as if countries are even sacrificing their democracies in order to 100% know that they won't leave the EU. No matter the public opinion.

I'm becoming more and more anti-EU every day. This is madness!

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24-10-2015, 01:44 PM
RE: Portugal no longer a democracy?
(24-10-2015 01:30 PM)SunnyD1 Wrote:  If you have a chance have a read of this article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/econo...power.html

In short, the state,"has taken the explicit step of forbidding eurosceptic parties from taking office on the grounds of national interest.".

Europe is really going to shit right now, as if countries are even sacrificing their democracies in order to 100% know that they won't leave the EU. No matter the public opinion.

I'm becoming more and more anti-EU every day. This is madness!
Ya might want to keep that on the DL....

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24-10-2015, 01:52 PM
RE: Portugal no longer a democracy?
(24-10-2015 01:44 PM)onlinebiker Wrote:  
(24-10-2015 01:30 PM)SunnyD1 Wrote:  If you have a chance have a read of this article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/econo...power.html

In short, the state,"has taken the explicit step of forbidding eurosceptic parties from taking office on the grounds of national interest.".

Europe is really going to shit right now, as if countries are even sacrificing their democracies in order to 100% know that they won't leave the EU. No matter the public opinion.

I'm becoming more and more anti-EU every day. This is madness!
Ya might want to keep that on the DL....

the walls have ears................

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I'm gonna get dragged away in the middle of the night and forced to watch the 2 minutes hate featuring images of Nigel Farage with devils hoofs, on repeat Sad

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07-11-2015, 06:39 PM
RE: Portugal no longer a democracy?
Most democracies reserve the right to ban certain parties, though this usually only applies to violent or extremely racist ones (like neo-nazis or bolsheviks). Banning euro-skeptics skirts the line between national interest and democratic principles, but sometimes restricting populism for long-term benefit of the people is, in my opinion, acceptable.
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07-11-2015, 07:13 PM
RE: Portugal no longer a democracy?
(07-11-2015 06:39 PM)Naridar Wrote:  Most democracies reserve the right to ban certain parties, though this usually only applies to violent or extremely racist ones (like neo-nazis or bolsheviks). Banning euro-skeptics skirts the line between national interest and democratic principles, but sometimes restricting populism for long-term benefit of the people is, in my opinion, acceptable.

By that logic, the U.S. should ban the Republican Party. Drinking Beverage

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08-11-2015, 02:36 AM (This post was last modified: 08-11-2015 03:41 AM by Szuchow.)
RE: Portugal no longer a democracy?
(24-10-2015 01:30 PM)SunnyD1 Wrote:  If you have a chance have a read of this article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/econo...power.html

In short, the state,"has taken the explicit step of forbidding eurosceptic parties from taking office on the grounds of national interest.".

Europe is really going to shit right now, as if countries are even sacrificing their democracies in order to 100% know that they won't leave the EU. No matter the public opinion.

I'm becoming more and more anti-EU every day. This is madness!

If state would ban neonazis or other menace I would applaud them. This however is too much, it's step into the land of fascism.

But it's nothing truly surprising as gov caring about people wishes isn't something that we get to see every day.

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08-11-2015, 03:29 AM
RE: Portugal no longer a democracy?
(07-11-2015 07:13 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(07-11-2015 06:39 PM)Naridar Wrote:  Most democracies reserve the right to ban certain parties, though this usually only applies to violent or extremely racist ones (like neo-nazis or bolsheviks). Banning euro-skeptics skirts the line between national interest and democratic principles, but sometimes restricting populism for long-term benefit of the people is, in my opinion, acceptable.

By that logic, the U.S. should ban the Republican Party. Drinking Beverage

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08-11-2015, 07:58 AM
RE: Portugal no longer a democracy?
(07-11-2015 07:13 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(07-11-2015 06:39 PM)Naridar Wrote:  Most democracies reserve the right to ban certain parties, though this usually only applies to violent or extremely racist ones (like neo-nazis or bolsheviks). Banning euro-skeptics skirts the line between national interest and democratic principles, but sometimes restricting populism for long-term benefit of the people is, in my opinion, acceptable.

By that logic, the U.S. should ban the Republican Party. Drinking Beverage
In fact, US did use the exact same logic.

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08-11-2015, 12:09 PM
RE: Portugal no longer a democracy?
(08-11-2015 02:36 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  This however is too much, it's step into the land of fascism.
Why fascism specifically?
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08-11-2015, 03:48 PM
RE: Portugal no longer a democracy?
(08-11-2015 12:09 PM)Gaest Wrote:  
(08-11-2015 02:36 AM)Szuchow Wrote:  This however is too much, it's step into the land of fascism.
Why fascism specifically?

Anti-democracy lacks the punch.

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