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11-05-2016, 02:51 PM
RE: Possible or impossible? this is the question!
(11-05-2016 12:35 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(11-05-2016 12:17 PM)LostLocke Wrote:  Because, the Spirit of God didn't enter til Adam and Eve. Pre-Adam humans would have been relegated to the same status as non-human animals, no "salvation".
who says that non-human animals will not have salvation?
So, basically, everything would be exactly the same, with or without a "Spirit of God" coming into play.

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11-05-2016, 04:02 PM
RE: Possible or impossible? this is the question!
(11-05-2016 12:40 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(11-05-2016 12:21 PM)Commonsensei Wrote:  WE RIGHT NOW ARE TRANSITIONAL FORMS! We will never see the change because we will be long dead before anything becomes evident.
We don't know this.

Well, me and the rest of the scientific community.

You excluded.

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11-05-2016, 05:13 PM
RE: Possible or impossible? this is the question!
(11-05-2016 12:35 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(11-05-2016 12:15 PM)Leo Wrote:  Because Chuck Norris doesn't look at all like a ape.
So?

We are created by the roundhouse kick of Chuck Norris. There isn't a theory of evolution. There is only the animals Chuck Norris allowed to live.

Religion is bullshit. The winner of the last person to post wins thread.Yes
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11-05-2016, 05:20 PM
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#TeamCommonsensei
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11-05-2016, 06:00 PM
RE: Possible or impossible? this is the question!
(11-05-2016 12:40 PM)Alla Wrote:  We don't know this.

You come here and ask us to explain how Adam and Eve didn't exist, you have no knowledge of what anyone here is talking about, so how can you possibly make this assertion and expected to be taken seriously?

Yes we DO know this, and if you had a basic understanding in anything outside your chosen bullshit you might know that. EVERY living thing is transitional you silly bint.

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11-05-2016, 06:12 PM
RE: Possible or impossible? this is the question!
(11-05-2016 05:13 PM)Leo Wrote:  
(11-05-2016 12:35 PM)Alla Wrote:  So?

We are created by the roundhouse kick of Chuck Norris. There isn't a theory of evolution. There is only the animals Chuck Norris allowed to live.

Wow the dinosaurs must've really pissed him off, he utterly destroyed them.

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11-05-2016, 06:17 PM
RE: Possible or impossible? this is the question!
(11-05-2016 06:00 PM)WhiskeyDebates Wrote:  
(11-05-2016 12:40 PM)Alla Wrote:  We don't know this.

You come here and ask us to explain how Adam and Eve didn't exist, you have no knowledge of what anyone here is talking about, so how can you possibly make this assertion and expected to be taken seriously?

Yes we DO know this, and if you had a basic understanding in anything outside your chosen bullshit you might know that. EVERY living thing is transitional you silly bint.

I honestly feel sad about all the time we have put in trying to thoroughly explain evolution to Alla and it's all for nothing. She doesn't understand it, pretends she does and talks about fairy tales as if they are the absolute truth because she believes it's the truth, that's it, no evidence or proof. So what's the point in even engaging her anymore? It's a waste of time. Even if you try to insult her she just posts a smiley and goes about her merry way still totally uneducated and happy about it, ignorance is bliss after all.

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11-05-2016, 07:19 PM
RE: Possible or impossible? this is the question!
(11-05-2016 12:40 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(11-05-2016 12:21 PM)Commonsensei Wrote:  At no point in time did a human just pop into exsistance. It was a transition. Homo heidelbergensis (#1) didn't just give birth to a homo spaien(#2)
one day.
I know this.
I don't know how God caused Adam and Eve to have physical bodies. He didn't give detailed explanation.
The scientific endevour is a best way of understanding nature and reality and all things material. It is a proven method.
The answers to any of this are not in the bible.
We must look at things in reality, we must examine rocks, examine fossils, examine DNA. We must kick the tyres of the universe and give it a thorough look over.

(11-05-2016 12:40 PM)Alla Wrote:  
(11-05-2016 12:21 PM)Commonsensei Wrote:  WE RIGHT NOW ARE TRANSITIONAL FORMS! We will never see the change because we will be long dead before anything becomes evident.
We don't know this.
In actual fact there really is no such thing as transitional.
Transition means in transit as if there is a valid state A and a valid state B and that anything in between is deemed transitional.

All life forms are constantly evolving, except for those that are going extinct. Mutations are still occurring, offspring are still being born, environments are still changing, survival and reproductive pressures are still favoring some and disadvantaging others.
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11-05-2016, 07:26 PM
RE: Possible or impossible? this is the question!
(10-05-2016 02:37 PM)Born Again Pagan Wrote:  Never having had a scientific education I have always wondered why inbreeding produces poor results. It is how a farmer builds good stock, breeding back into the descendants the sires from before as many times as possible. SO why does it end up being bad for people?

One only has to look at the current British Royal family to see a classic example of the negative results of linebreeding. Prince Charles has the mental capacity of a sardine... on a good day. Charlie attended Cambridge and only achieved a third class degree—that is, he just passed. He only got two 'A' levels, and if he'd been a commoner, he wouldn't have gained admission to any university in the UK. And the poor dickwad will go to his grave believing in the efficacy of homeopathy LOL.

And where in the Christian bible does it mention anything—even obliquely—about genetics? Where did Adam get his Y chromosome from, the dust?

I'm a creationist... I believe that man created God.
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11-05-2016, 07:31 PM
RE: Possible or impossible? this is the question!
(11-05-2016 06:17 PM)SitaSky Wrote:  I honestly feel sad about all the time we have put in trying to thoroughly explain evolution to Alla and it's all for nothing. She doesn't understand it, pretends she does and talks about fairy tales as if they are the absolute truth because she believes it's the truth, that's it, no evidence or proof.
I think it is fascinating.
I'm very interested in why believers believe and why it is so hard to to point out the things that are inconsistent with reality.

The held beliefs are so strong, so enduring.
People can listen to scientific knowledge and they simply reinterpret their religious text or deny science.

But ultimately it comes down to "you can't prove that god doesn't exist"
And No we can't. The idea of god is unprovable and unfalsifiable. It is a poorly formed idea. We can't address stories in the bible because they aren't to be taken literally. Ultimately we have nothing to address other than point out that there is no evidence for a magical god.

A real positive from these conversations with Alla is that Alla is learning something about science, something about evolution. Which is cool.

It makes no sense to try and convince Alla that his/her god doesn't exist.
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