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03-11-2012, 03:04 PM
RE: Potential HIV Vaccine



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03-11-2012, 03:43 PM
RE: Potential HIV Vaccine
(03-11-2012 03:04 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  

HIV clearly exists; it was developed by Stalin for use in the pogroms and stolen by Nazi doctors to use in the Holocaust, then used against gays by John Birchers. Drinking Beverage

It all makes sense.

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03-11-2012, 03:52 PM
RE: Potential HIV Vaccine
http://www.aidstruth.org/denialism/myths#m1

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03-11-2012, 04:11 PM
RE: Potential HIV Vaccine
(03-11-2012 03:52 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  http://www.aidstruth.org/denialism/myths#m1
Nobody is saying that people aren't sick, what is being said is that the illnesses attributed to AIDS is not caused by a virus HIV. The link I gave shows the problems in the lab with identifying an HIV virus, the methods they talk about are still being used today.

You said that there were studies showing the easiness of catching HIV from partner to partner. Where are the results from these studies and when did they take place?
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03-11-2012, 04:13 PM (This post was last modified: 03-11-2012 04:16 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Potential HIV Vaccine
(03-11-2012 04:11 PM)I and I Wrote:  
(03-11-2012 03:52 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  http://www.aidstruth.org/denialism/myths#m1
Nobody is saying that people aren't sick, what is being said is that the illnesses attributed to AIDS is not caused by a virus HIV. The link I gave shows the problems in the lab with identifying an HIV virus, the methods they talk about are still being used today.

You said that there were studies showing the easiness of catching HIV from partner to partner. Where are the results from these studies and when did they take place?
You think I have all day for this denialism bullshit ? Ever hear of Google ?
If you don't believe in it, that's your problem, not mine.
I don't have to go investigate every crackpot that shows up here. YOU have to demonstrate exactly where 99.99 % of ALL the Infectious Disease physicians on the planet are wrong and why.
Summarize your argument, and I'll refute it.

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03-11-2012, 04:37 PM
RE: Potential HIV Vaccine
(03-11-2012 04:13 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(03-11-2012 04:11 PM)I and I Wrote:  Nobody is saying that people aren't sick, what is being said is that the illnesses attributed to AIDS is not caused by a virus HIV. The link I gave shows the problems in the lab with identifying an HIV virus, the methods they talk about are still being used today.

You said that there were studies showing the easiness of catching HIV from partner to partner. Where are the results from these studies and when did they take place?
You think I have all day for this denialism bullshit ? Ever hear of Google ?
If you don't believe in it, that's your problem, not mine.
I don't have to go investigate every crackpot that shows up here. YOU have to demonstrate exactly where 99.99 % of ALL the Infectious Disease physicians on the planet are wrong and why.
Summarize your argument, and I'll refute it.
So you can't prove that the HIV virus exists and can't provide evidence of it's existence.

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03-11-2012, 05:11 PM
RE: Potential HIV Vaccine
(03-11-2012 04:37 PM)I and I Wrote:  
(03-11-2012 04:13 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  You think I have all day for this denialism bullshit ? Ever hear of Google ?
If you don't believe in it, that's your problem, not mine.
I don't have to go investigate every crackpot that shows up here. YOU have to demonstrate exactly where 99.99 % of ALL the Infectious Disease physicians on the planet are wrong and why.
Summarize your argument, and I'll refute it.
So you can't prove that the HIV virus exists and can't provide evidence of it's existence.

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http://www.aidstruth.org/denialism/myths#m1
Read my responses before you make an ass of yourself, Mr. I-am-kind-of-a-big-deal-if-Idon't-say-so-myself. Tongue
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...f?page=183

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03-11-2012, 05:24 PM
RE: Potential HIV Vaccine
This has really turned into an 'I'm not listening!' thread.

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03-11-2012, 05:25 PM
RE: Potential HIV Vaccine
(03-11-2012 05:11 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(03-11-2012 04:37 PM)I and I Wrote:  So you can't prove that the HIV virus exists and can't provide evidence of it's existence.

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http://www.aidstruth.org/denialism/myths#m1
Read my responses before you make an ass of yourself, Mr. I-am-kind-of-a-big-deal-if-Idon't-say-so-myself. Tongue
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...f?page=183
That link states that the HIV virus can be isolated in a lab, however the link I posted shows the flaws in the methods used to isolate the HIV virus, unless they have a radical newer way of isolating a virus than they did at the time that paper I posted was written.
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03-11-2012, 05:36 PM
RE: Potential HIV Vaccine
(03-11-2012 04:11 PM)I and I Wrote:  
(03-11-2012 03:52 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  http://www.aidstruth.org/denialism/myths#m1
Nobody is saying that people aren't sick, what is being said is that the illnesses attributed to AIDS is not caused by a virus HIV. The link I gave shows the problems in the lab with identifying an HIV virus, the methods they talk about are still being used today.

You said that there were studies showing the easiness of catching HIV from partner to partner. Where are the results from these studies and when did they take place?
The HIV virus attacks the immune system severly weakening it, the illness that comes with aids isn't caused by the HIV virus, but it is often caused By what would relativly harmless pathogens which healthy people can fight off. But HIV positive people's immune system has been left decimated by the virus that they can't fight other infections off.


To sum up. HIV does cause aids (acquired immune deficiency syndrome), the illness that comes with it is from other pathogens that can gain a foot hold because of the damage the virus does to the immune system.

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