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04-04-2014, 12:51 PM
RE: Premeditated Sin?
(04-04-2014 11:16 AM)wazzel Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 02:27 AM)89JeepYJ Wrote:  Has anyone else ever heard of this? I remember a while back when I was a Christian I was in a study group in church and we were talking about sin. One person said there is premeditated sin, where you plan that you are going to sin, but you know you can just pray for forgiveness later.

Is it just me, or are some people just making stuff up as they go along? Because now I realize how ridiculous it all sounds.

Very common among catholics. They take the stance of "well I can just go to confession later". I took a trip to Rome with my wife and her family and they did thing to get indulgences. My wife's BIL was like, OK I am good for a while. I found it really odd and did not participate even tho I had not come to grips with my non-beliefe yet. I still though the whole practice was silly. Why as a christian would you plan to do something you know you need to seek forgiveness for later?

And, if memory serves, as a Catholic thinking about committing a sin is as bad as actually committing a sin. At least that's what I was taught growing up. So even a young kid that thinks about taking a piece of candy he's been told not to is a venial sin...or sin lite. But, it would still require mention during confession.

Thought control at it's finest. As soon as a 'bad' thought enters your mind...you have sinned against god. Doesn't really matter if you decide against actually doing what you were thinking about.

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04-04-2014, 12:59 PM
RE: Premeditated Sin?
(04-04-2014 12:51 PM)Anjele Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 11:16 AM)wazzel Wrote:  Very common among catholics. They take the stance of "well I can just go to confession later". I took a trip to Rome with my wife and her family and they did thing to get indulgences. My wife's BIL was like, OK I am good for a while. I found it really odd and did not participate even tho I had not come to grips with my non-beliefe yet. I still though the whole practice was silly. Why as a christian would you plan to do something you know you need to seek forgiveness for later?

And, if memory serves, as a Catholic thinking about committing a sin is as bad as actually committing a sin. At least that's what I was taught growing up. So even a young kid that thinks about taking a piece of candy he's been told not to is a venial sin...or sin lite. But, it would still require mention during confession.

Thought control at it's finest. As soon as a 'bad' thought enters your mind...you have sinned against god. Doesn't really matter if you decide against actually doing what you were thinking about.

As far as I can remember that would be correct.
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04-04-2014, 01:37 PM
RE: Premeditated Sin?
(04-04-2014 12:51 PM)Anjele Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 11:16 AM)wazzel Wrote:  Very common among catholics. They take the stance of "well I can just go to confession later". I took a trip to Rome with my wife and her family and they did thing to get indulgences. My wife's BIL was like, OK I am good for a while. I found it really odd and did not participate even tho I had not come to grips with my non-beliefe yet. I still though the whole practice was silly. Why as a christian would you plan to do something you know you need to seek forgiveness for later?

And, if memory serves, as a Catholic thinking about committing a sin is as bad as actually committing a sin. At least that's what I was taught growing up. So even a young kid that thinks about taking a piece of candy he's been told not to is a venial sin...or sin lite. But, it would still require mention during confession.

Thought control at it's finest. As soon as a 'bad' thought enters your mind...you have sinned against god. Doesn't really matter if you decide against actually doing what you were thinking about.

Religion is seriously fucked up.

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04-04-2014, 01:39 PM
RE: Premeditated Sin?
(04-04-2014 01:37 PM)Blackhand293 Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 12:51 PM)Anjele Wrote:  And, if memory serves, as a Catholic thinking about committing a sin is as bad as actually committing a sin. At least that's what I was taught growing up. So even a young kid that thinks about taking a piece of candy he's been told not to is a venial sin...or sin lite. But, it would still require mention during confession.

Thought control at it's finest. As soon as a 'bad' thought enters your mind...you have sinned against god. Doesn't really matter if you decide against actually doing what you were thinking about.

Religion is seriously fucked up.

Agreed. Thumbsup

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05-04-2014, 01:49 AM
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(04-04-2014 11:15 AM)Chas Wrote:  Pro tip: It's all made-up shit. All of it. Drinking Beverage

Ah yes you're right. They're basically sinning against a God that doesn't exist. But at the time I thought the whole "premeditated sin" sounded silly. Heck, religion sounds silly to me now.
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05-04-2014, 12:22 PM
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This reminds me of Dante. One of the guys in hell was there because he did his confession prior to doing the sin. For forgiveness one needs to be contrite. If you do the sin anyway, you're not really contrite.

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05-04-2014, 12:23 PM
RE: Premeditated Sin?
(04-04-2014 01:37 PM)Blackhand293 Wrote:  
(04-04-2014 12:51 PM)Anjele Wrote:  And, if memory serves, as a Catholic thinking about committing a sin is as bad as actually committing a sin. At least that's what I was taught growing up. So even a young kid that thinks about taking a piece of candy he's been told not to is a venial sin...or sin lite. But, it would still require mention during confession.

Thought control at it's finest. As soon as a 'bad' thought enters your mind...you have sinned against god. Doesn't really matter if you decide against actually doing what you were thinking about.

Religion is seriously fucked up.

Well conspiracy to commit murder is also a crime as I recall.

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