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21-01-2017, 12:09 AM
RE: President Donald Trump
(20-01-2017 11:54 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  ...
A republican atheist. It's rare but there are a few of us around.
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Your typo made me smile.

I'm a republican atheist, as are the vast majority of members here from what I've seen.

The irony being, of course, that of everyone, you come across most like the sycophantic monarchists who I remember from my youth with whom it was impossible to have intellectual discourse.

Laugh out load

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21-01-2017, 12:29 AM (This post was last modified: 21-01-2017 12:32 AM by GenesisNemesis.)
RE: President Donald Trump
(21-01-2017 12:09 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(20-01-2017 11:54 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  ...
A republican atheist. It's rare but there are a few of us around.
...

Your typo made me smile.

I'm a republican atheist, as are the vast majority of members here from what I've seen.

The irony being, of course, that of everyone, you come across most like the sycophantic monarchists who I remember from my youth with whom it was impossible to have intellectual discourse.

Laugh out load

And he doesn't give a shit about the religious right taking over the government. It doesn't mean much that he's a republican atheist if he doesn't stand up against the fucking group that opposes his existence, and will do everything in its power to break down the wall of separation of church and state.

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21-01-2017, 12:33 AM
RE: President Donald Trump
(20-01-2017 08:41 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(20-01-2017 08:05 PM)pablo Wrote:  Agreed

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21-01-2017, 01:36 AM
RE: President Donald Trump
(21-01-2017 12:29 AM)GenesisNemesis Wrote:  ...
And he doesn't give a shit about the religious right taking over the government. It doesn't mean much that he's a republican atheist if he doesn't stand up against the fucking group that opposes his existence, and will do everything in its power to break down the wall of separation of church and state.

Well, actually, erm Blush I think that this wall might have been a mistake. Or at least, might now be the wrong approach.

Evolutionary history shows that domesticating wild animals seems to have had greater advantage than maintaining barriers to keep the wild animals out.

Consider

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21-01-2017, 02:20 AM (This post was last modified: 21-01-2017 02:24 AM by ClydeLee.)
RE: President Donald Trump
(20-01-2017 12:51 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  I never thought this day would ever happen. I won't have to worry about putting gas in my car. I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage! If I help him, he is gonna help me!

He didn't reinstate mandatory gas pump attendants yet.

I don't get how less financial fears in that manner is a calling card of people of any main party. There is never a the rent is too damn high party victory.

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21-01-2017, 03:04 AM
RE: President Donald Trump
(20-01-2017 11:54 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  I bring a different side to the atheist realm. A republican atheist. It's rare but there are a few of us around.
What is it that is meant by the term "republican atheist"?
Republican is just the name of a party right? Party policies change over time.

What ideology is it that you are referring to as "republican"?
Is it the ideology of right wing policies, vs socialist policies vs mixed?
Is it the idea of conservative (traditional) vs liberal (progressive) views?
Is it the idea big government vs small government?
Is it the idea of unfeterred gun access vs gun control?
Is it the idea of white Christian values, vs unChristian values?

What is it that you actually stand for, other than merely waving a Republican flag about?

You're approach of being irritating (on purpose) and just trying to provoke a reaction is highly immature to say the least. It seems you perhaps consider yourself to be somewhat special being a "republican atheist" and just want to keep shouting that out as if anyone really cares.
I don't get it, BTW. Don't understand what your deal is, don't understand what it is that you stand for. It feel in a way like YEC's or flat Earthers, who proudly wave their flags, inspite of the massive evidence against their position. They seem so very proud to have a "contraditory" position as if their purpose in life is to be an irritant, something contraversial that just makes others scratch their heads.

Is it that you don't get any attention otherwise? I mean, do you spend any time hanging out in republican forums and join the masses in their praises of Republicans? Seems you just want conflict and anger coming at you.
I just don't get it.
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21-01-2017, 03:56 AM
RE: President Donald Trump
Just moments ago...

We're having soup for dinner. Chinese news station is on the TV but no one is paying much attention. News lady is reporting on the inauguration.

One of the girls (youngster, half-Chinese, half-???, way more wisdom than education) looks up and says "Who's that?

"It's the new President of the United States" I reply.

"Pfft! Face full of fake" she says and goes back to her soup.

Only 2 seconds. She sussed it out in 2 seconds merely from his body language.

Laugh out load

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21-01-2017, 03:57 AM
RE: President Donald Trump
Well I'm off to the American embassy in Edinburgh to protest Donald Trump as president. My first ever protest! (Although I did intend to protest the invasion of Iraq but it coincided with the first day of paraglidable weather).

Not that I think American's shouldn't be allowed to vote how they wish. But by doing so it sends a message to the UK government that it's not going to win votes pandering to Trump just because he is now POTUS.

My sincere condolences to the many, many decent Americans who did not vote for Trump and recognise him for the Demagogue that he is.

The next few years will be tough, but it can get better. We each have to do our bit.
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21-01-2017, 04:08 AM
RE: President Donald Trump
(20-01-2017 12:17 PM)Lord Dark Helmet Wrote:  The best day of my adult life, with the exception of my wedding day and birth of children, that's for sure. I remember my father's reaction to Ronald Reagan's reelection, and now I understand why.

Trump's speech was masterful. "When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice...whether we are black or brown or white, we all bleed the same red blood of patriots."

Truly a great day.

We will make America great again.

Gone is the failed Hussein Obama and his failed policies, his legacy destroyed. Good riddance.

My 2 year old can wake up tomorrow in a better country than he was born into. With republicans in control over the majority of the country.

How lucky we are to be living through this.

Party stooge.

The world thinks you're all arse holes.

His legacy has begun.

Even GWB was not hated from day 1.

That came later.

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21-01-2017, 04:43 AM (This post was last modified: 21-01-2017 04:49 AM by RocketSurgeon76.)
RE: President Donald Trump
I don't get their martyr complex, the "it's my job as a rare breed (a conservative!) to stand against all of you hounding jackals and tell The Truthiness". It's total bullshit.

On this forum alone, we have several conservative members, or at least heavily conservative-leaning. I know this because at some point, I've tangled with all of them. But not because they're conservatives. Almost everyone in the real world I know and love is conservative. (And yet even then you'll hear them talk as if they're being overrun with Dayum Lub'rulz, people who, if you ask them pointedly, they admit they've never really met*.) If I disagree with them, I calmly tell them why. If they say something that's just plain bigotry or bogus anti-Liberal snark (like the "safe space" bullshit, even though that's mostly a myth-- yet another example of citing the rare extremes as if a commonplace thing in liberal thought circles), then and only then do I become belligerent.

No, we don't say the things we say to you because you're conservative. We say them because you deliberately say things in as asinine and unreasonable a manner as possible. Or at least, it seems to you do. There's nothing necessarily conservative about being homophobic/transphobic, for instance; that's something "conservatives" borrowed from Christian fundamentalism, primarily, and a generic fear of anything not well understood.

Because of that martyr complex, I actually try to avoid giving you your jollies by feeling persecuted. But sometimes what you say is such a dickhead thing to say, or way to say it, that I can't help telling you what an asshole you are.

But it's not because you're a conservative. It's because you're an asshole.


*Edit to Add: It's my favorite part of the Conservative martyr complex... I'm literally the only liberal they know, but they'll forget that I am and grouse to me that the damned liberals are such-and-such... and I'll have to remind them that I am, and that no I don't think that way and no other liberal I've spoken to thinks that way, and that I consider anyone who thinks that way to be as idiotic as they think those "liberals" are.

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