Presuppositional Atheism: Turning a Bad Argument Around
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09-01-2015, 06:12 PM
RE: Presuppositional Atheism: Turning a Bad Argument Around
(09-01-2015 04:44 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 03:45 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  But you have to use logic to say that. It's circular.

I'm still waiting for the explanation of the contradiction.

Atheism uses logic. Logic says that circular reasoning is bad. Logic uses logic to prove itself. But, using logic to prove logic is circular reasoning, and logic says that circular reasoning is bad? Consider

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09-01-2015, 06:48 PM
Presuppositional Atheism: Turning a Bad Argument Around
(09-01-2015 06:12 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 04:44 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  I'm still waiting for the explanation of the contradiction.

Atheism uses logic. Logic says that circular reasoning is bad. Logic uses logic to prove itself. But, using logic to prove logic is circular reasoning, and logic says that circular reasoning is bad? Consider

Atheism is the absence of theism.

Where is the contradiction in an absence of theism?

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09-01-2015, 06:50 PM
Presuppositional Atheism: Turning a Bad Argument Around
(09-01-2015 06:48 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 06:12 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  Atheism uses logic. Logic says that circular reasoning is bad. Logic uses logic to prove itself. But, using logic to prove logic is circular reasoning, and logic says that circular reasoning is bad? Consider

Atheism is the absence of theism.

Where is the contradiction in an absence of theism?

By your logic, an absence of a belief in magic is a contradiction too.

So, I ask again, where is the contradiction?

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09-01-2015, 10:15 PM (This post was last modified: 09-01-2015 10:34 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Presuppositional Atheism: Turning a Bad Argument Around
(09-01-2015 06:12 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  Atheism uses logic.

You embarrass me as a rational being to belong to the same species as you.

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09-01-2015, 10:33 PM
RE: Presuppositional Atheism: Turning a Bad Argument Around
(09-01-2015 10:15 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 06:12 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  Atheism uses logic.

You embarrass me as a rational being to be the same species as you.

So, atheism isn't logical?

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09-01-2015, 10:37 PM (This post was last modified: 09-01-2015 10:52 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Presuppositional Atheism: Turning a Bad Argument Around
(09-01-2015 10:33 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 10:15 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  You embarrass me as a rational being to be the same species as you.

So, atheism isn't logical?

You embarrass me as a rational being to be the same species as you.

Ahhhh ... I remember 17. Young dumb and full of cum.




Get some formal schooling on reason, you show great interest and promise. ... "So, atheism isn't logical?" ... Yeah, I'm gonna treat that as rhetorical. Unless you want me to address it directly dildo. At seventeen.

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10-01-2015, 01:08 AM
RE: Presuppositional Atheism: Turning a Bad Argument Around
(09-01-2015 10:33 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 10:15 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  You embarrass me as a rational being to be the same species as you.

So, atheism isn't logical?

Atheism does not require logic. It does not require science.
All atheism needs is some dumbass theist making a claim for the existence of a god.

Isn't ironic that there would not be any atheists it it were not for theists making claims?

So it bears repeating:
A theist is someone who believes the claim: A god exists.
An atheist is someone who does not believe that claim.

It is that simple.
No logic. No science. No philosophy.
Disbelief is The Default Position versus any claim until enough evidence warrants belief.
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10-01-2015, 01:18 AM
RE: Presuppositional Atheism: Turning a Bad Argument Around
(09-01-2015 03:37 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 03:17 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  Atheism is worse. Atheism is a contradiction.

A (absent) + theism = Atheism, absence of theism.

Unless you can demonstrate the contradiction, I'll just assume you are a troll.

Yeah, Dude you've been out of the loop for a while, so here's the deal; meet what is apparently our new pet troll. He does nothing but say the same shit over and over. Occasionally he'll change tack and spam something else when he stops getting attention.

Now that you are all caught up; have fun with the pet.

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10-01-2015, 07:39 AM
RE: Presuppositional Atheism: Turning a Bad Argument Around
(09-01-2015 06:50 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 06:48 PM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  Atheism is the absence of theism.

Where is the contradiction in an absence of theism?

By your logic, an absence of a belief in magic is a contradiction too.

So, I ask again, where is the contradiction?

Diddo is on a mission to show that logic, reason and evidence can't lead one to a belief in god, I'm inclined to agree. Laugh out load

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10-01-2015, 08:08 AM
Presuppositional Atheism: Turning a Bad Argument Around
(09-01-2015 10:33 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(09-01-2015 10:15 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  You embarrass me as a rational being to be the same species as you.

So, atheism isn't logical?

Where is the contradiction in atheism?

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