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03-02-2013, 06:47 PM
RE: Prisons.
(03-02-2013 06:42 PM)earmuffs Wrote:  I don't like the idea of prisons. I think to a certain degree they are necessary, but I think we put to much weight on punishment.
Rather then focusing on punishment a far better cause of action would be on rehabilitation. I think that is where the future is and I think that is where we need to be heading.

In a criminals life there is usually a whole string of events that result in them going to prison for a long term.
That often starts as a child with a hrrible up-bringing, then moves to schools not doing enough, employers not willing to employe them etc.. the prior effects the next step in that persons life. Eventually you get to a point where they have no education, they're unemployable, perhaps gotten into gangs and stuff etc..
Chain reaction. this effects this which effects this which effects this etc..

What our justice system focuses on is the very end of that chain, the part after they commited a crime.
What I think our justice system, or at least the government, should be focusing on is the much earlier steps (well I think they should focus on all stages, but more so the early ones), such as the troubled home and up-bringing of the child or a child failing in the education system.
You need to treat the root cause of the problem as to change the way that chain reaction occurs. So if you can get children into schools and get them to learn then they can get qualifications and then get jobs etc..

I think if you are at a point where someone has commited a crime then you have failed to address the issues in that persons life sooner. And in doing so, if they do commit a crime then I think instead of sending them to jail to sit around and do nothing you need to be training these people. Getting them to elarn trades, while in prison, so that when they leave prison they have something to go into and wont reoffend.
I know they do this already but it's currently not good enough, prisons should be doing this with all it's prisoners.

I just think there are two types of criminals. 1) The type I've been talking about, coming from troubled/poor background, poor education etc.. etc.. and effectivley being forced into crime as the only option.
And 2) The just fucking horrible people whoms nature it is to harm people.

I think the vast majority of criminals are type 1. BUT if the government re-focused it's efforts I think it would be possible to get it to a point where the only type we are locking up is type2.


ALSO, this is why I oppose private prisons. They have absolutely no insentive to rehabilitate.

Fuck it; I'm moving to New Zealand.
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Prisons. - bemore - 03-02-2013, 09:32 AM
RE: Prisons. - Vera - 03-02-2013, 10:10 AM
RE: Prisons. - kim - 03-02-2013, 11:31 AM
RE: Prisons. - Chas - 03-02-2013, 11:32 AM
RE: Prisons. - Vera - 03-02-2013, 11:42 AM
RE: Prisons. - Mr Woof - 03-02-2013, 02:44 PM
RE: Prisons. - bbeljefe - 03-02-2013, 11:32 AM
RE: Prisons. - bemore - 03-02-2013, 12:03 PM
RE: Prisons. - Vera - 03-02-2013, 02:50 PM
RE: Prisons. - Mr Woof - 03-02-2013, 02:56 PM
RE: Prisons. - Mr Woof - 03-02-2013, 02:59 PM
RE: Prisons. - Mr Woof - 03-02-2013, 02:50 PM
RE: Prisons. - Vera - 03-02-2013, 03:07 PM
RE: Prisons. - Mr Woof - 03-02-2013, 03:13 PM
RE: Prisons. - earmuffs - 03-02-2013, 06:42 PM
RE: Prisons. - bbeljefe - 03-02-2013, 08:32 PM
RE: Prisons. - Aseptic Skeptic - 04-02-2013, 12:55 PM
RE: Prisons. - bbeljefe - 04-02-2013, 01:15 PM
RE: Prisons. - earmuffs - 04-02-2013, 04:24 PM
RE: Prisons. - Mr Woof - 04-02-2013, 06:57 PM
RE: Prisons. - kim - 03-02-2013 06:47 PM
RE: Prisons. - Scientia - 03-02-2013, 07:02 PM
RE: Prisons. - BryanS - 03-02-2013, 11:47 PM
RE: Prisons. - Adenosis - 04-02-2013, 12:21 AM
RE: Prisons. - Chas - 04-02-2013, 07:02 AM
RE: Prisons. - Vosur - 04-02-2013, 12:23 PM
RE: Prisons. - Adenosis - 04-02-2013, 01:33 PM
RE: Prisons. - bbeljefe - 04-02-2013, 02:50 PM
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