Pro-Life Atheists?

[aesirus]

After dropping organized religion I went on a hard left socialist ideology for most of my 20's and early 30's. When you (I) take that worldview you seem to be automatically plugged in to everything about it. So I was pro-choice. Now that I've decided to critically review all of my opinions I've swung the other way but settled somewhere in the middle. I'm pro-life. Except in cases of health issues to the mother, rape, and incest. Like someone said earlier, I think it's a more common sense approach. Abortion should not be a viable form of birth control.

The people that piss me off are the staunch pro-lifers. Especially since my wife had an abortion (late term also) for a very good reason. If you're are so set in your opinion on something that you can't critically examine an opposing argument then you're an asshole. And that's what I think those guys on the corners with signs of baby parts are. There is no argument, I've tried, to convince them that abortion shouldn't be completely abolished.

[freethinker1]

(28-01-2011 09:25 AM)BnW Wrote:  Lots of things that are legal become illegal and vice versa, though. And, Roe v. Wade and the subsequent decisions that followed did not grant an absolute right to abortion up until the baby is born. Finally, the entire decision is probably one Supreme Court vote from being completely over turned and thrown back to the states. So, a response that basically equates to "it's legal, deal with it" is really missing the point.

I've not missed the point... many are worried about the court overturning roe v wade, based on their religious beliefs... in most cases the same people that bring their guns to political rallies "because its legal" are the very same ones that march on plan parenthood clinics and pray for the overturn of roe v wade..... i find it very hypocritical.
the point i was making is there are far more pressing issues in our world today then worrying about what legal actions another free person takes with their own body... its time they stop playing "morality (as they see it) police" . its not freedom for all * except for the things i find objectionable even if they are legal.

[BnW]

(30-01-2011 07:08 AM)freethinker1 Wrote:  I've not missed the point... many are worried about the court overturning roe v wade, based on their religious beliefs... in most cases the same people that bring their guns to political rallies "because its legal" are the very same ones that march on plan parenthood clinics and pray for the overturn of roe v wade..... i find it very hypocritical.

I'm not sure what you're saying here. If you're saying that the court may overturn Roe v. Wade solely because of their religious beliefs, I completely disagree. I think it may get overturned because, regardless of what you or I may think of abortion, it's an awful decision and a perfect example of a court legislating from the bench. As for issue with guns to political rallies, not something I'm a fan of but I don't see what it has to do with this issue.

As for your second point, all I can say is that everyone thinks that the issues they disagree with are a waste of the governments time and the peoples money. But, to people who are against abortion, the issue is about life itself. What issues are more important to a government then the health and well being of its citizenry?

[13mentaculus]

I think that most of us can agree that as a society, we want the number of abortions to be as small as possible. Everyone wants to reduce the number of abortions, so in that sense, the pro lifers and the pro choicers are on the same page.

If a woman wants to go around getting knocked up and having abortions just for fun, then she is an evil person for being careless in regard to her reproductive responsibilities, but she still has the legal right to a medical procedure.

We should, by and large, work together to reduce the demand for abortion. This is something that we don't need to legislate. We don't need anti-abortion laws, we need a more sexually responsible society!

The cases of rape, incest, genetic disabilities, developmental disabilities, or imminent danger to the health of the mother, are just unimaginably (I'm a boy) horrific situations for a person to be in, and the choice should rest solely on the woman's shoulders. We simply don't need legislation dictating action in this matter.

[hotrodmike]

I agree with the post directly above this.

(18-09-2010 04:29 PM)No J. Wrote:  George Carlin has some interesting observations on this subject.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qtlvr6LLV8

I am also in 100% agreement with George Carlin on this topic. Yes, I am male, but my daughter was the result of an unexpected pregnancy (at least on my part) and my grandson was unexpected as well, and since I love them both, I have every reason to be pro-life, except I cannot justify forcing others to carry babies to term and parent them against their wills. That's like legislating Church attendance for atheists. It's indefensible.

[ConditionYellow]

I hate the term "Pro Life". That implies that those of us that are "Pro Choice" are somehow anti-life.

I revere life. And even if my own daughter got pregnant in the worst of circumstances, I would encourage her to have the child if at all possible and then give it up for adoption.

But that doesn't mean I think abortions should be illegal.

The real question is, who among you is anti-choice?