Probability
Post Reply
 
Thread Rating:
  • 3 Votes - 3 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
23-03-2013, 08:17 AM
RE: Probability
(23-03-2013 06:22 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  You didn't mathematically describe anything. You just wrote something down and gave variables names.

And made an "ineffable" being subject to, confined by, and defined by, Reality. THAT ain't no "god". Jebus H. F'ng Christ this troll is a dumb one.

Insufferable know-it-all.Einstein Certified Ancient Astronaut Theorist and Levitating yogi, CAAT-LY.
Assistant Manager, Vice Detection, Whoville : Jebus no likey that which doth tickle thee unto thy nether regions.

Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 2 users Like Bucky Ball's post
23-03-2013, 10:02 AM
Re: Probability
Maybe his argument would be that if every god that has ever existed was just a part of nature, then maybe all gods have natural explanations? Like, they are all just manifestations of the human imagination?
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes TheBeardedDude's post
24-03-2013, 12:02 AM
RE: Probability
(23-03-2013 06:22 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  You didn't mathematically describe anything. You just wrote something down and gave variables names.

You're wrong, but I'm not going to quibble with you over it. I think this thread has pretty much run its course and I don't plan on spend in a whole lot more time on it.

Vosur, Anjele, Hanoff.....have you learned nothing in my absence?
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
24-03-2013, 05:09 AM (This post was last modified: 26-03-2013 09:21 AM by TheJackal.)
RE: Probability
(22-03-2013 01:07 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(22-03-2013 08:06 AM)TheJackal Wrote:  If you are referring to the probability of life, it's meaningless. Especially in dealing with infinite times scales, and infinite vastness of existence.. This Universe in itself could simply just be 1 of an infinite number of other universes to where life did arise. In these circumstances, probability becomes utterly meaningless and not something you can possibly measure, and even becomes inevitable consequence of the system. And dealing with chaotic systems to which are inherently unpredictable on large scales and times scales, probability arguments again really have no real world relevancy here.. Probability arguments are best used in where predictability is within predictable systems and situations such as particle physics in nuclear engineering.. But if anyone tries to use the probability argument against the probability of life, it only shows how much bs arm chair pseudoscience and mathematics they can make up and put into meaningless argument.
Nobody has ever observed a multi verse or infinite time scales so it
is irrational and illogical to believe in those things.....right
BeardedDude?

Nobody observed a god either.. And the point is that you don't know, and that is more than enough to call BS on any attempt you try and make on some arm chair probability argument. However unlike you, we have a means to empirically infer, and thus it's not irrational to believe those things as you try to claim. We know we exist and there is things we can derive from that:

1stly:

Existence itself would have always existed, and thus time in context would be infinite by consequence. Hence Reality, or what is existence simply
always existed without creation due to the very simple fact that nothing can not be, or have ever been, a literal existing person, place, object, substance, or thing.. And you surely can't create what yourself is slave to require to exist.. Now if you would calculate for us the probability of the existence of your GOD without existence, we can finish this simple appeal to ignorance of yours.

2ndly:

Whether you believe in a multi-verse or a single Universe, the volume and the capacity of would remain infinite
by consequence that nothing, as stated above, can not ever literally exist. Thus nor can a zero volume exist. Worse yet, you can't have an
existence, or contain the existence of anything at all in nothing, or in a volume with a value of zero.. Volume by consequence is infinite and
regarded as such because it's impossible to have a zero volume and have any existence at all. You can't have a marble in a box that has a zero
volume, or no capacity. You can't have information in a zero volume either, or an existence what-so-ever. Thus since no zero value can possibly exist for volume, it is thus infinite by consequence. So if our universe were finite, it can not be contained in a box that has no volume, and that would be an infinite egress issue. It must be infinite for us to even exist at all by consequence.

Simply put, to exist at all, you must be in and of existence like everything else. You will be bound and slave to require existence, be of existence, and in existence. And that's is not something one can create.. Existence itself is the totality of all things, the governor of all things, and causality itself. Not even consciousness can exist without existence, and nor can a conscious state exist without cause. So again you probability argument is utter nonsense..

Also, you have no real world data to even deposit a coherent probability calculation.. Hence arm chair made up bs is basically what you would be trying to pass off here.. Pseudo mathematics is not impressive, especially when you are trying to demonstrate an absolute negative with it for very poor attempt at an appeal to ignorance.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
25-03-2013, 07:20 AM
Re: Probability
The thread ran its course when you tried giving a definition for miracles that negated everything you had said. You took 29 pages to definitively defeat yourself.

And you didn't mathematically describe anything. You turned your thoughts into a made-up equation with no mathematical backing. Look:
Life = x
Chocolate = y
Time = t

X = (y^2)^2 / t

There, I just mathematically described life.

Evolve
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
25-03-2013, 12:05 PM (This post was last modified: 25-03-2013 12:10 PM by Heywood Jahblome.)
RE: Probability
(25-03-2013 07:20 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  The thread ran its course when you tried giving a definition for miracles that negated everything you had said. You took 29 pages to definitively defeat yourself.

And you didn't mathematically describe anything. You turned your thoughts into a made-up equation with no mathematical backing. Look:
Life = x
Chocolate = y
Time = t

X = (y^2)^2 / t

There, I just mathematically described life.


You mathematically described X in terms of Y and T. But you seriously did not try to described life using mathematics. What you did was cover your ears and spout gibberish.

Vosur, Anjele, Hanoff.....have you learned nothing in my absence?
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 1 user Likes Heywood Jahblome's post
25-03-2013, 04:01 PM
Re: Probability
Same thing you did.
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 3 users Like TheBeardedDude's post
26-03-2013, 02:57 AM
RE: Probability
(25-03-2013 12:05 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(25-03-2013 07:20 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  The thread ran its course when you tried giving a definition for miracles that negated everything you had said. You took 29 pages to definitively defeat yourself.

And you didn't mathematically describe anything. You turned your thoughts into a made-up equation with no mathematical backing. Look:
Life = x
Chocolate = y
Time = t

X = (y^2)^2 / t

There, I just mathematically described life.


You mathematically described X in terms of Y and T. But you seriously did not try to described life using mathematics. What you did was cover your ears and spout gibberish.
And now you see the point.

"Allow there to be a spectrum in all that you see" - Neil Degrasse Tyson
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 3 users Like ClydeLee's post
26-03-2013, 08:04 AM
RE: Probability
(26-03-2013 02:57 AM)ClydeLee Wrote:  
(25-03-2013 12:05 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  You mathematically described X in terms of Y and T. But you seriously did not try to described life using mathematics. What you did was cover your ears and spout gibberish.
And now you see the point.
I doubt that Dodgy

Evolve
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[+] 2 users Like TheBeardedDude's post
26-03-2013, 09:14 AM
RE: Probability
(25-03-2013 12:05 PM)Heywood Jahblome Wrote:  
(25-03-2013 07:20 AM)TheBeardedDude Wrote:  The thread ran its course when you tried giving a definition for miracles that negated everything you had said. You took 29 pages to definitively defeat yourself.

And you didn't mathematically describe anything. You turned your thoughts into a made-up equation with no mathematical backing. Look:
Life = x
Chocolate = y
Time = t

X = (y^2)^2 / t

There, I just mathematically described life.


You mathematically described X in terms of Y and T. But you seriously did not try to described life using mathematics. What you did was cover your ears and spout gibberish.
Oh the Irony!..
Find all posts by this user
Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply
Forum Jump: