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17-09-2015, 05:58 AM
RE: Proof and Evidence; Unilaterally Undeniable
(17-09-2015 05:36 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(17-09-2015 04:22 AM)ahp2015 Wrote:  I cbf with punctuation, besides - it brings focus to my messige

Bad spelling, grammar, and punctuation do nothing to 'bring focus' to a message - quite the opposite. Drinking Beverage

glad ur catching up. still got you thinking about it...
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17-09-2015, 05:58 AM
RE: Proof and Evidence; Unilaterally Undeniable
(17-09-2015 05:54 AM)ahp2015 Wrote:  
(17-09-2015 05:52 AM)Slowminded Wrote:  How about Justanotherdelusionalnutcase ?

If that's your thing, no hard feelings at all... Can I call you jahiliyah?

Sure you can, I consider it a compliment coming from someone like you.

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17-09-2015, 06:00 AM
RE: Proof and Evidence; Unilaterally Undeniable
(17-09-2015 05:34 AM)ahp2015 Wrote:  So why is a book 1436 years old, dated, in existence explaining 7 layers of the atmosphere. And that planets orbit their stars. And how children develop in the womb.

The following from infidels.

Quote:The Qur'an states that Allah created the sky in layers. He created seven heavens, and decked the lowest heaven with lamps (Qur'an 67:3-5) and adorned it with the beauty of the stars (Qur'an 37:6). The Qur'an also states that the moon is within these seven heavens (Qur'an 71:15-16). If the stars (lamps) are in the lowest heaven, they are either closer to the earth than the moon, or are at an equal distance from the earth as the moon. Either way this is scientifically inaccurate. It is a known fact that the stars are much farther away than the moon.

Quote:he entire study of human life as mentioned in the Qur'an is not original at all. While Muslims try to claim that Muhammad made these statements before scientists discovered them, they are wrong. Theories of the formation of a child inside the womb was put forth by Aristotle nearly 1,000 years before the Qur'an was written. In fact Aristotle correctly described the function of the umbilical cord, something not mentioned in the Qur'an, showing that earlier philosophers were aware of such things mentioned by Muhammad and more. Every mention of human development in the Qur'an is similar to Roman and Greek theories. Consider the following verse referring to sperm:

The internet has plenty of information on both sides of the issue. The conclusion that seems inescapable is credulity is affirmed only through presupposition.

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17-09-2015, 06:00 AM
RE: Proof and Evidence; Unilaterally Undeniable
(17-09-2015 05:43 AM)Slowminded Wrote:  
(17-09-2015 05:19 AM)ahp2015 Wrote:  You know I'm surprised no one's asked. I'll ask.

Can you prove there is no God?

No one asked? Hahhahah, you m8 are hilarious. Hundreds of fuckwits like you came in here asking that very question in one form or another, all of them believing that they are the first ones to ask it.
Just shows that you are not very smart.
Take my advice and fuck off, it will inevitable come to that. Why are you insisting on wasting yours and our time, you are not convincing or converting anyone here with your bullshit. It has been unsuccessfully tried by many like you, and every single one of you idiots think that they are the one who will enlighten us.
But of you just vomit same old crap over and over again.

Dude you truly represent your handle.

I went fishing with bait. And you bit.

[98.4] And those who were given the Book did not become divided except after clear evidence had come to them
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17-09-2015, 06:03 AM
RE: Proof and Evidence; Unilaterally Undeniable
But of you just vomit same old crap over and over again.
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Dude you truly represent your handle.

I went fishing with bait. And you bit.

[98.4] And those who were given the Book did not become divided except after clear evidence had come to them
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Inception... Gotta love it.
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17-09-2015, 06:05 AM
RE: Proof and Evidence; Unilaterally Undeniable
(17-09-2015 06:00 AM)houseofcantor Wrote:  
(17-09-2015 05:34 AM)ahp2015 Wrote:  So why is a book 1436 years old, dated, in existence explaining 7 layers of the atmosphere. And that planets orbit their stars. And how children develop in the womb.

The following from infidels.

Quote:The Qur'an states that Allah created the sky in layers. He created seven heavens, and decked the lowest heaven with lamps (Qur'an 67:3-5) and adorned it with the beauty of the stars (Qur'an 37:6). The Qur'an also states that the moon is within these seven heavens (Qur'an 71:15-16). If the stars (lamps) are in the lowest heaven, they are either closer to the earth than the moon, or are at an equal distance from the earth as the moon. Either way this is scientifically inaccurate. It is a known fact that the stars are much farther away than the moon.

Quote:he entire study of human life as mentioned in the Qur'an is not original at all. While Muslims try to claim that Muhammad made these statements before scientists discovered them, they are wrong. Theories of the formation of a child inside the womb was put forth by Aristotle nearly 1,000 years before the Qur'an was written. In fact Aristotle correctly described the function of the umbilical cord, something not mentioned in the Qur'an, showing that earlier philosophers were aware of such things mentioned by Muhammad and more. Every mention of human development in the Qur'an is similar to Roman and Greek theories. Consider the following verse referring to sperm:

The internet has plenty of information on both sides of the issue. The conclusion that seems inescapable is credulity is affirmed only through presupposition.

Fact remains is that evidences supports astronomical and microbiological information was revealed in the 6th century... Things that were only confirmed in the 20th century with complete surety.

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17-09-2015, 06:07 AM
RE: Proof and Evidence; Unilaterally Undeniable
(17-09-2015 06:00 AM)ahp2015 Wrote:  
(17-09-2015 05:43 AM)Slowminded Wrote:  No one asked? Hahhahah, you m8 are hilarious. Hundreds of fuckwits like you came in here asking that very question in one form or another, all of them believing that they are the first ones to ask it.
Just shows that you are not very smart.
Take my advice and fuck off, it will inevitable come to that. Why are you insisting on wasting yours and our time, you are not convincing or converting anyone here with your bullshit. It has been unsuccessfully tried by many like you, and every single one of you idiots think that they are the one who will enlighten us.
But of you just vomit same old crap over and over again.

Dude you truly represent your handle.

I went fishing with bait. And you bit.

[98.4] And those who were given the Book did not become divided except after clear evidence had come to them
Sure you did, except the fish you caught is way too big for your rod.

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17-09-2015, 06:09 AM
RE: Proof and Evidence; Unilaterally Undeniable
(17-09-2015 05:44 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(17-09-2015 05:02 AM)ahp2015 Wrote:  I'd like to understand - first hand - at the very least appreciate, what it is that separates an atheist from a believer?

Believers are credulous and delusional

Quote:In a general sense. I'm happy to leave alone the devil of detail unless required.

The details matter.

Quote:Then, on visiting a forum of like minded people, I propose a 'fox in the hen house' style conversation. Without pulling any punches. We can all type...

No, you are the hen in the fox's den.

Quote:Time best spent on intellect, no? Of course I could be wrong, I only offer a subjective point of view. I'm just an individual, and it is there that I wish to converse. As individuals sharing knowledge. As brothers and or sisters in humanity. We all share death.

You have not yet shared any knowledge, and I doubt you have any to share.

So Fantastic Mr Fox. What say you about knowledge?
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17-09-2015, 06:10 AM
RE: Proof and Evidence; Unilaterally Undeniable
(17-09-2015 06:07 AM)Slowminded Wrote:  
(17-09-2015 06:00 AM)ahp2015 Wrote:  Dude you truly represent your handle.

I went fishing with bait. And you bit.

[98.4] And those who were given the Book did not become divided except after clear evidence had come to them
Sure you did, except the fish you caught is way too big for your rod.

Sorry mate I don't swing that way.
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17-09-2015, 06:11 AM
RE: Proof and Evidence; Unilaterally Undeniable
(17-09-2015 06:09 AM)ahp2015 Wrote:  
(17-09-2015 05:44 AM)Chas Wrote:  Believers are credulous and delusional


The details matter.


No, you are the hen in the fox's den.


You have not yet shared any knowledge, and I doubt you have any to share.

So Fantastic Mr Fox. What say you about knowledge?

Or are you still to catch up...
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