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31-12-2012, 11:30 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus?
(25-12-2012 10:18 PM)Starcrash Wrote:  
(08-12-2012 11:38 AM)Free Wrote:  I wonder what the odds are that 4 different Gospel writers, Paul, Apostolic Fathers, Josephus, Tacitus, and other writers in the NT from the 1st century all imagined the exact same guy by the name of Jesus who was crucified by Pontius Pilate?

Since I find that none of these writers refer to each other's writings (aside from the Synoptic and Apostolic Fathers) I think we could use a logical and reasonable explanation supported by textual evidence that could provide a better argument for Jesus being a total myth than for existence.

Nobody can say with certainty whether or not Jesus existed or was a total myth, but the argument for existence is certainly far better than the argument for total myth.

Honestly guys, the mythology argument needs to adequately dispute existence, and so far, I have not seen one good argument to dispute it. I see plenty of assertion, supposition, and tons of logical fallacies and lack of reasoning, but not once in 30 years have I seen a good solid argument for total mythology on this subject.

My position remains as it is:

Somebody named Jesus who was regarded as the Christ by many Jews was crucified by Pontius Pilate sometime in the 1st half of the 1st century.

Whoever he was is an entirely different argument.
I used to be in this camp, arguing that it was probably true that Jesus existed (mainly from being convinced by Bart Ehrman's "The Historical Jesus" lectures) but I saw a YouTube video that shot it down so nicely. I can't remember the video, although I remember plenty of the arguments.

You say that it's odd that so many different writers, none of them using each other as a source, referenced the same character... but we can find the same thing happening in the modern day. Take Paul Bunyan for one example. Even if there was a real person named Paul Bunyan, and there's no good reason to suspect there was, the stories about him are obviously fake. Even if there was a real person that the myth was based on, would it even be fair to call him "the real Paul Bunyan" if literally nothing said about him was true? We could all recount stories of Paul Bunyan, and some of these stories would have some overlap, but it's not because they actually happened... it's because we've all heard the same stories.

While there are several "independent" writers that wrote about Jesus, what exactly did they say about him? Paul cites nothing about Jesus except that he was crucified and died for our sins. He doesn't tell a single story about Jesus' life. Matthew and Luke both used Mark as a source, so those aren't independent. John is an independent source, and that's probably why it contradicts the other scriptures on almost every story... it's likely that others who had read Mark (and maybe Matthew and Luke) had passed around these stories orally (public education was not a thing at that time) and the writer of John had heard these stories but only after they'd gotten severely warped from re-tellings... so while it's possible that John was "independent", it was also probably based on the exact same original scripture -- Mark. So we possibly have only 2 sources, Mark and Paul, and Paul doesn't verify Mark's stories. Since it would appear that there was an early religion based on Jesus' life, the fact that Paul believes its basic tenants doesn't prove that there even were stories about Jesus when he wrote his letters, but only a religion based on Jesus... and it's possible that once stories were circulated, Mark wrote them down and everyone copied his tales.
You just nailed it! You been reading my mind?
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Proof of Jesus? - Atothetheist - 09-08-2012, 12:09 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - robotworld - 09-08-2012, 10:29 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Jeff - 09-08-2012, 01:20 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Observer - 09-08-2012, 01:47 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Chase200mph - 06-12-2012, 07:47 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free Thought - 06-12-2012, 07:51 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Chas - 06-12-2012, 07:55 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Chase200mph - 06-12-2012, 10:09 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Matthew Laramore - 15-08-2012, 08:39 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - ideasonscribe - 15-08-2012, 01:05 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Chas - 15-08-2012, 01:10 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Question - 15-08-2012, 01:12 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - MidnightKat - 15-08-2012, 04:15 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - FSM_scot - 15-08-2012, 04:25 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Kritter - 18-11-2012, 04:01 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - FSM_scot - 15-08-2012, 04:31 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - robotworld - 15-08-2012, 05:51 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Vosur - 15-08-2012, 11:17 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Matthew Laramore - 15-08-2012, 11:40 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Logisch - 16-08-2012, 04:36 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - MidnightKat - 16-08-2012, 03:10 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - ideasonscribe - 16-08-2012, 03:48 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Atothetheist - 16-08-2012, 03:54 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - ideasonscribe - 16-08-2012, 06:11 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Logisch - 16-08-2012, 09:58 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Chase200mph - 04-09-2012, 07:52 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Ambassador of Christ - 04-09-2012, 03:29 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Vosur - 04-09-2012, 03:52 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Question - 04-09-2012, 04:25 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Ambassador of Christ - 04-09-2012, 03:30 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Atothetheist - 04-09-2012, 03:54 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - cheapthrillseaker - 04-09-2012, 03:58 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Bucky Ball - 04-09-2012, 04:09 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Ambassador of Christ - 04-09-2012, 04:11 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Atothetheist - 04-09-2012, 04:22 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Bucky Ball - 04-09-2012, 04:27 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - cheapthrillseaker - 04-09-2012, 04:33 PM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Logica Humano - 04-09-2012, 04:45 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - cheapthrillseaker - 04-09-2012, 04:41 PM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Question - 04-09-2012, 04:38 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Atothetheist - 04-09-2012, 04:38 PM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Question - 04-09-2012, 04:47 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Atothetheist - 04-09-2012, 04:47 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - cheapthrillseaker - 04-09-2012, 04:49 PM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Logica Humano - 04-09-2012, 04:54 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - cheapthrillseaker - 04-09-2012, 04:57 PM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Ambassador of Christ - 04-09-2012, 05:06 PM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Atothetheist - 01-11-2012, 07:09 PM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Atothetheist - 01-11-2012, 07:34 PM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free - 03-11-2012, 09:49 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Bucky Ball - 03-11-2012, 10:04 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free - 03-11-2012, 08:46 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free - 01-11-2012, 08:13 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Atothetheist - 01-11-2012, 08:15 PM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Kritter - 19-11-2012, 05:22 AM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Atothetheist - 01-11-2012, 02:46 PM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free - 03-11-2012, 11:44 PM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free - 04-11-2012, 08:17 AM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free - 04-11-2012, 01:12 PM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Bucky Ball - 05-11-2012, 02:41 PM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Atothetheist - 05-11-2012, 03:41 PM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free - 06-11-2012, 08:38 AM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Atothetheist - 06-11-2012, 04:20 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Bucky Ball - 06-11-2012, 05:56 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Kritter - 19-11-2012, 05:43 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - houseofcantor - 19-11-2012, 06:19 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Bucky Ball - 19-11-2012, 06:27 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - houseofcantor - 19-11-2012, 06:33 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free - 19-11-2012, 09:24 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - houseofcantor - 20-11-2012, 08:02 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free Thought - 19-11-2012, 06:42 AM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Starcrash - 25-12-2012, 10:18 PM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Mark Fulton - 31-12-2012 11:30 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Chase200mph - 19-12-2012, 05:35 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free - 20-12-2012, 11:46 AM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Starcrash - 26-12-2012, 10:24 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free - 27-12-2012, 08:17 AM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - Starcrash - 31-12-2012, 06:05 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Mark Fulton - 31-12-2012, 11:52 PM
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RE: Proof of Jesus? - houseofcantor - 30-12-2012, 09:24 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Vosur - 30-12-2012, 09:33 PM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free - 31-12-2012, 08:09 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Chas - 31-12-2012, 08:20 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free - 31-12-2012, 09:31 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free - 31-12-2012, 09:35 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Chas - 31-12-2012, 10:18 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free - 31-12-2012, 10:53 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Bryce Fleming - 31-12-2012, 11:18 AM
RE: Proof of Jesus? - Free - 01-01-2013, 10:38 AM
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