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03-10-2014, 02:19 PM
RE: Proof that God exists
(03-10-2014 12:24 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(03-10-2014 07:39 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Diddo hun,
There is no "proof" that gods exist. If that were the case, faith would be unnecessary. Your Jebus did give you the "gift/virtue" of faith, didn't he ?
"Proofs" of/for the gods, is a very un-Christian idea.
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03-10-2014, 02:28 PM
RE: Proof that God exists
(02-10-2014 07:31 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 07:29 AM)Chas Wrote:  Your conclusion is the same as your premise?

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So how do you prove logic, then? Drinking Beverage

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03-10-2014, 04:44 PM
RE: Proof that God exists
(03-10-2014 01:16 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(03-10-2014 12:50 PM)true scotsman Wrote:  Prove it!

He offers a way out of justice.

This is actually an interesting point if I'm reading it correctly. The standard Christian dogma is that we are all depraved, sinful creatures who deserve to roast in Hell forever. This is justice. Jesus "offers a way out of justice" by offering himself as a scapegoat. By "dying for our sins", he relieves us of the responsibility for them -- provided we "accept him into our hearts" or some such thing.

It sounds to me like diddo accepts the first part of this argument (we all deserve Hell), but not the second part (Jesus as scapegoat). I'm with him on the second part -- the whole scapegoat concept is wishful thinking and makes no sense. If God wanted to offer us that sort of mercy, he could just do it without the need to "sacrifice himself to himself". And if we are indeed guilty, why shouldn't we pay the price for our own sins?

Of course, I don't accept the first part either. If we are depraved and sinful creatures by nature, it's because God made us that way, and no amount of sinning that we could do in a finite lifetime would deserve infinite punishment. That is not justice by any normal definition of the term. I conclude (for this and other reasons) that the whole thing is nonsense, and there is no God (or, if there is, he/she/it is nothing whatsoever like the God depicted in the Bible). The God of the Bible, even if he existed, would not be worthy of worship.
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03-10-2014, 04:55 PM
RE: Proof that God exists
(03-10-2014 12:24 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(03-10-2014 07:39 AM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  Diddo hun,
There is no "proof" that gods exist. If that were the case, faith would be unnecessary. Your Jebus did give you the "gift/virtue" of faith, didn't he ?
"Proofs" of/for the gods, is a very un-Christian idea.
Thus endeth the lesson.
Praise be.
Amen.
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My "Jebus"? I don't follow that fool. He's a lying con artist.

Wait? WHAT?! Blink

Then WTF religion ARE YOU?!


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03-10-2014, 05:18 PM
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(02-10-2014 07:20 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  Premise one: Something exists if it exists. (law of non contradiction)
Premise two: God exists. (Trancendental argument for the existence of God.)
Conclusion: God exists

All you said was "God exists" as a declaration. That's the dumbest argument I've ever heard, and that's all I've got to say about that.

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03-10-2014, 09:59 PM
RE: Proof that God exists
jebus is a con artists ? if he's a christian then he's probably an idiot if he's serious
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03-10-2014, 10:01 PM
RE: Proof that God exists
(03-10-2014 05:18 PM)Azaraith Wrote:  
(02-10-2014 07:20 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  Premise one: Something exists if it exists. (law of non contradiction)
Premise two: God exists. (Trancendental argument for the existence of God.)
Conclusion: God exists

All you said was "God exists" as a declaration. That's the dumbest argument I've ever heard, and that's all I've got to say about that.

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03-10-2014, 10:22 PM
RE: Proof that God exists
(03-10-2014 04:55 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  
(03-10-2014 12:24 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  My "Jebus"? I don't follow that fool. He's a lying con artist.

Wait? WHAT?! Blink

Then WTF religion ARE YOU?!

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03-10-2014, 10:48 PM
RE: Proof that God exists
(03-10-2014 04:55 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  
(03-10-2014 12:24 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  My "Jebus"? I don't follow that fool. He's a lying con artist.

Wait? WHAT?! Blink

Then WTF religion ARE YOU?!

Religion is Bullshit.

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03-10-2014, 10:50 PM
RE: Proof that God exists
(03-10-2014 10:48 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(03-10-2014 04:55 PM)Shadow Fox Wrote:  Wait? WHAT?! Blink

Then WTF religion ARE YOU?!

Religion is Bullshit.

Yet you are a christian, might as well say being a republican is bullshit while being and supporting the republican party. Dodgy

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