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08-10-2014, 06:24 AM
RE: Proof that God exists
(07-10-2014 08:54 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(07-10-2014 08:14 PM)natachan Wrote:  Translation: I, diddo, cannot conceive of how the universe could exist without God, and I believe it would be convenient if he existed to explain it.

God exists because it would be convenient. Bad argument.

The universe can't exist without God, period. I have no idea how you don't understand this.

That is your basic "god of gaps" argument. Just because we do not know or understand does not mean a god is responsible. Sometimes "we do not know" is the answer. Lack of disproof is not proof.
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08-10-2014, 09:14 AM
RE: Proof that God exists
(08-10-2014 06:24 AM)wazzel Wrote:  
(07-10-2014 08:54 PM)diddo97 Wrote:  The universe can't exist without God, period. I have no idea how you don't understand this.

That is your basic "god of gaps" argument. Just because we do not know or understand does not mean a god is responsible. Sometimes "we do not know" is the answer. Lack of disproof is not proof.

You can go back as far as you want. Eventually, God causes it.

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08-10-2014, 09:17 AM
RE: Proof that God exists
(08-10-2014 09:14 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(08-10-2014 06:24 AM)wazzel Wrote:  That is your basic "god of gaps" argument. Just because we do not know or understand does not mean a god is responsible. Sometimes "we do not know" is the answer. Lack of disproof is not proof.

You can go back as far as you want. Eventually, God causes it.

You can assert all you want but you can prove nothing.
You are simply too arrogant to accept that you are wrong.

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08-10-2014, 09:25 AM
RE: Proof that God exists
(08-10-2014 09:17 AM)Winterwolf00 Wrote:  
(08-10-2014 09:14 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  You can go back as far as you want. Eventually, God causes it.

You can assert all you want but you can prove nothing.
You are simply too arrogant to accept that you are wrong.

Arrogant?? Why would I WANT to believe in a God who will send me to hell? Weeping

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08-10-2014, 09:27 AM
RE: Proof that God exists
(08-10-2014 09:25 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(08-10-2014 09:17 AM)Winterwolf00 Wrote:  You can assert all you want but you can prove nothing.
You are simply too arrogant to accept that you are wrong.

Arrogant?? Why would I WANT to believe in a God who will send me to hell? Weeping

I don't pretend to know the strange things in your mind.
Nor was I even talking about hell.
YOU are the one using the 'god of the gaps' argument and failing to see why it doesn't work.

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08-10-2014, 09:29 AM
RE: Proof that God exists
(08-10-2014 09:14 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  You can go back as far as you want. Eventually, God causes it.

No it doesn't.
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08-10-2014, 09:30 AM
RE: Proof that God exists
(08-10-2014 09:27 AM)Winterwolf00 Wrote:  
(08-10-2014 09:25 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  Arrogant?? Why would I WANT to believe in a God who will send me to hell? Weeping

I don't pretend to know the strange things in your mind.
Nor was I even talking about hell.
YOU are the one using the 'god of the gaps' argument and failing to see why it doesn't work.

It's not god of the gaps. There could very well be something that caused this universe, or even a cause of that cause. But if you go back to infinity, you will find God.

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08-10-2014, 09:31 AM
RE: Proof that God exists
(08-10-2014 09:30 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  
(08-10-2014 09:27 AM)Winterwolf00 Wrote:  I don't pretend to know the strange things in your mind.
Nor was I even talking about hell.
YOU are the one using the 'god of the gaps' argument and failing to see why it doesn't work.

It's not god of the gaps. There could very well be something that caused this universe, or even a cause of that cause. But if you go back to infinity, you will find God.

No evidence.

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08-10-2014, 09:32 AM
RE: Proof that God exists
(08-10-2014 09:31 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(08-10-2014 09:30 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  It's not god of the gaps. There could very well be something that caused this universe, or even a cause of that cause. But if you go back to infinity, you will find God.

No evidence.

Time for you to fuck off, troll. Drinking Beverage

Where does evidence come from? On what basis do you use evidence?

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08-10-2014, 09:32 AM
RE: Proof that God exists
(08-10-2014 09:30 AM)diddo97 Wrote:  But if you go back to infinity, you will find God.

No you won't.
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