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29-04-2015, 12:59 PM
RE: Protect her character
(29-04-2015 12:45 PM)jennybee Wrote:  
(29-04-2015 12:42 PM)RobbyPants Wrote:  Yeah, just like those creepy chastity balls, where daughters pledge their virginity to their fathers. They never have balls where sons pledge their virginity to their mothers.

yeah those are pretty creepy...

Creepy? You decide.

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29-04-2015, 01:00 PM
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(29-04-2015 12:57 PM)Losty Wrote:  I have seen some seriously disturbing father/daughter purity photos. Ugh
http://www.liberalamerica.org/2014/05/05...ly-creepy/

Those are very disturbing. They look like child brides.
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29-04-2015, 01:02 PM (This post was last modified: 29-04-2015 01:07 PM by Adrianime.)
RE: Protect her character
(29-04-2015 12:19 PM)Losty Wrote:  
(28-04-2015 12:25 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  I totally get that some girls may not need protection. But you can't ignore that girls are often the victim of rape/roofies (sp?)/sexual pressure/one-track-mind guys. Things aren't equal in that sense as guys are much less likely to be a victim.

I know this isn't the point you were trying to make, but imagine the message this send to highschoolers. Protect her character, by not raping or victimizing her? That is the wrong message. You can try not to interpret it that way but the point isn't to lay blame on the creator of the poster. The point is to avoid sending a message to teenagers that can be interpreted in a way that is emotionally damaging.
That was the point I was trying to make. Protect her character by not raping/victimizing/objectifying/disrespecting her. I consider this a good message (because that stuff does happen...often).

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29-04-2015, 01:03 PM
RE: Protect her character
(29-04-2015 12:59 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(29-04-2015 12:45 PM)jennybee Wrote:  yeah those are pretty creepy...

Creepy? You decide.

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It'd make a good horror movie. Those pictures are deeply disturbing.

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29-04-2015, 01:19 PM
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(29-04-2015 11:18 AM)Iñigo Wrote:  Irregardless of the intent, the poster is ambiguous enough to be interpreted in different ways and thus carries different messages. You interpret it one way, but clearly Nurse and Jenny and Deidre and Losty do not. Which means there will be young women who see this poster and will interpret it along the lines of "I should be shy, quite etc." along with "if I am sexually active, I loose my character". Irregardless of the intent, some young women will get these unhealthy messages. That is what I have a problem with (independent of any offensiveness).
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Again, even if these were not the intended messages, these are some of the messages that are going to be received. I understand that it is possible to make mistakes and say things that are going to be received the wrong way. Hell, I've stepped on my dick (just a figure of speech) plenty of times, but I have apologized and rectified the situation. The principal should do the same.
Quote:The poster also insinuates a number of double standards (whether intentionally or not).
1) No poster for the boys: double standard
2) Protect her character by not having sex with her, but if you have sex with her your character is just fine: double standard
3) It also sends the message that sex is started by the boys (i.e they are the ones who want it). Well, boys are not the only ones who want to have, sex girls do also. This is absolutely normal and girls should not be made to feel that this is wrong: Double standard
I would say that
1. Boys aren't as often the victim of sexual violence or harassment.
2. The poster doesn't say that, you are inferring/assuming that.
3. I guess I agree (that the poster is pointing it's fingers at boys). But I think that's where the finger needs to be pointed. And yes, I know how horny highschool girls can be. But I know how sex-obsessed highschool boys can be. Not just wanting to have sex, but driven by the desire to have sex.

Regarding the ambiguity, I don't know. I'm honestly tired of posters/ads/commercials/products being pulled and ripped apart because somebody was offended and thought it was racist/sexist/whateverist. I'm leaning more towards the intent of the artist being more important than the hurt feelings of those who misinterpret. (Still noting, that I could totally be the one misinterpreting).

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29-04-2015, 01:55 PM
RE: Protect her character
(29-04-2015 01:19 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  
(29-04-2015 11:18 AM)Iñigo Wrote:  Irregardless of the intent, the poster is ambiguous enough to be interpreted in different ways and thus carries different messages. You interpret it one way, but clearly Nurse and Jenny and Deidre and Losty do not. Which means there will be young women who see this poster and will interpret it along the lines of "I should be shy, quite etc." along with "if I am sexually active, I loose my character". Irregardless of the intent, some young women will get these unhealthy messages. That is what I have a problem with (independent of any offensiveness).
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Again, even if these were not the intended messages, these are some of the messages that are going to be received. I understand that it is possible to make mistakes and say things that are going to be received the wrong way. Hell, I've stepped on my dick (just a figure of speech) plenty of times, but I have apologized and rectified the situation. The principal should do the same.
Quote:The poster also insinuates a number of double standards (whether intentionally or not).
1) No poster for the boys: double standard
2) Protect her character by not having sex with her, but if you have sex with her your character is just fine: double standard
3) It also sends the message that sex is started by the boys (i.e they are the ones who want it). Well, boys are not the only ones who want to have, sex girls do also. This is absolutely normal and girls should not be made to feel that this is wrong: Double standard
I would say that
1. Boys aren't as often the victim of sexual violence or harassment.
2. The poster doesn't say that, you are inferring/assuming that.
3. I guess I agree (that the poster is pointing it's fingers at boys). But I think that's where the finger needs to be pointed. And yes, I know how horny highschool girls can be. But I know how sex-obsessed highschool boys can be. Not just wanting to have sex, but driven by the desire to have sex.

Regarding the ambiguity, I don't know. I'm honestly tired of posters/ads/commercials/products being pulled and ripped apart because somebody was offended and thought it was racist/sexist/whateverist. I'm leaning more towards the intent of the artist being more important than the hurt feelings of those who misinterpret. (Still noting, that I could totally be the one misinterpreting).

Because it was put out by a religious organization--I have hard time believing they meant something different...
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29-04-2015, 03:05 PM
RE: Protect her character
(29-04-2015 01:02 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  
(29-04-2015 12:19 PM)Losty Wrote:  I know this isn't the point you were trying to make, but imagine the message this send to highschoolers. Protect her character, by not raping or victimizing her? That is the wrong message. You can try not to interpret it that way but the point isn't to lay blame on the creator of the poster. The point is to avoid sending a message to teenagers that can be interpreted in a way that is emotionally damaging.
That was the point I was trying to make. Protect her character by not raping/victimizing/objectifying/disrespecting her. I consider this a good message (because that stuff does happen...often).

That's a horrible point. Are you seriously telling me that you think being the victim of rape diminishes a person's character?


*ETA. I don't believe you think that, but it is what you said.

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29-04-2015, 03:10 PM
RE: Protect her character
(29-04-2015 12:59 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(29-04-2015 12:45 PM)jennybee Wrote:  yeah those are pretty creepy...

Creepy? You decide.

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That picture makes Charlie Manson look like a reasonable guy......

Creepy doesn't even BEGIN to cover that one....

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29-04-2015, 04:13 PM
RE: Protect her character
(29-04-2015 12:59 PM)Chas Wrote:  
(29-04-2015 12:45 PM)jennybee Wrote:  yeah those are pretty creepy...

Creepy? You decide.

This one reminds me of Mr. Woof and earmuffs.

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29-04-2015, 04:53 PM (This post was last modified: 29-04-2015 05:04 PM by Adrianime.)
RE: Protect her character
(29-04-2015 03:05 PM)Losty Wrote:  
(29-04-2015 01:02 PM)Adrianime Wrote:  That was the point I was trying to make. Protect her character by not raping/victimizing/objectifying/disrespecting her. I consider this a good message (because that stuff does happen...often).

That's a horrible point. Are you seriously telling me that you think being the victim of rape diminishes a person's character?


*ETA. I don't believe you think that, but it is what you said.
I see what is going on. When you read "protect her character" you read "protect her reputation/how she is perceived by others." Not once did I think that. When I read, "protect her character" I read it as "honor her sovereignty as an individual". Your interpretation may be right though.

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