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28-09-2014, 06:26 AM
RE: Proving God existence
(22-09-2014 03:05 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(22-09-2014 01:14 AM)Muslim Wrote:  You still don't understand!

I assumed that a dynamic object can be continuously changing (without a doer)

But to be static then Dynamic (started to change) without an external cause is impossible

So you are saying radioactive decay requires an external cause?
Of course!
You are just observing the continuous changing status and imagine it is the only state

The external cause will be the formation of the matter itself

If a matter is radioactive, you can trace back when the radiation started
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28-09-2014, 06:28 AM
RE: Proving God existence
(28-09-2014 06:26 AM)Muslim Wrote:  
(22-09-2014 03:05 AM)Chas Wrote:  So you are saying radioactive decay requires an external cause?
Of course!
You are just observing the continuous changing status and imagine it is the only state

The external cause will be the formation of the matter itself

If a matter is radioactive, you can trace back when the radiation started

Please do so - show us the start.

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28-09-2014, 06:42 AM
RE: Proving God existence
(22-09-2014 08:09 AM)Reltzik Wrote:  What I did was define what it would mean for something to be infinite (or, rather, use the standard mathematical definition,
This is exactly my point!

You think that what you studied in math is real
but infinity is just an approximation to something that has no bound

Actually I don't need to prove that, the burden of proof is on you to prove that something "real" can have an infinite number
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28-09-2014, 06:46 AM
RE: Proving God existence
(24-09-2014 09:30 AM)Astreja Wrote:  
Quote:"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming WOO HOO, what a ride!"

- A Maxine cartoon, paraphrasing Hunter S. Thompson

Sorry, Muslim, but I really don't think we'd be very happy in your religion's version of paradise. As I understand it, Islam opposes music, alcohol and dogs. I'd hate to get stuck in a place where I couldn't wander off to jam with other musicians, couldn't drink single-malt Scotch, didn't hear a reassuring late-evening "Wuff!" from the neighbour's German Shepherd, and generally couldn't be Me.

Now, Valhalla on the other hand ... Thumbsup
this is your problem

You are a slave not a free person, and that is how God created us

(By the way: there can be anything in Paradise)
Those things are forbidden only in life
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28-09-2014, 06:49 AM
RE: Proving God existence
(28-09-2014 06:46 AM)Muslim Wrote:  
(24-09-2014 09:30 AM)Astreja Wrote:  Sorry, Muslim, but I really don't think we'd be very happy in your religion's version of paradise. As I understand it, Islam opposes music, alcohol and dogs. I'd hate to get stuck in a place where I couldn't wander off to jam with other musicians, couldn't drink single-malt Scotch, didn't hear a reassuring late-evening "Wuff!" from the neighbour's German Shepherd, and generally couldn't be Me.

Now, Valhalla on the other hand ... Thumbsup
this is your problem

You are a slave not a free person, and that is how God created us

(By the way: there can be anything in Paradise)
Those things are forbidden only in life

You keep making assertions about things for which you have no evidence.

Why do you think we would find any of that convincing? Or even very interesting?

You are a boring, deluded little man.

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28-09-2014, 06:49 AM
RE: Proving God existence
(28-09-2014 06:28 AM)Chas Wrote:  
(28-09-2014 06:26 AM)Muslim Wrote:  Of course!
You are just observing the continuous changing status and imagine it is the only state

The external cause will be the formation of the matter itself

If a matter is radioactive, you can trace back when the radiation started

Please do so - show us the start.
You need to study what is a radio active material and How it radiates?
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28-09-2014, 06:51 AM
RE: Proving God existence
(28-09-2014 06:49 AM)Muslim Wrote:  
(28-09-2014 06:28 AM)Chas Wrote:  Please do so - show us the start.
You need to study what is a radio active material and How it radiates?

Dodging everything as usual I see, can't back up your assertions so you have to slither out of it like the snake you are. Not answering any questions or providing proof just making baseless arguments and trying to turn it back onto the person countering your claims.

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28-09-2014, 06:53 AM
RE: Proving God existence
(28-09-2014 06:49 AM)Muslim Wrote:  
(28-09-2014 06:28 AM)Chas Wrote:  Please do so - show us the start.
You need to study what is a radio active material and How it radiates?

Oh, fuck off. My knowledge of physics is not at issue here. Besides, it appears it is greater than yours.

Radioactivity is not "continuous", it is a series of discrete, probabilistic events.

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28-09-2014, 09:14 AM
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Always funny to watch theists tie themselves in knots...

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28-09-2014, 10:07 AM
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They are willing to tie their own balls in knots, if that is what you mean. In this case only men OFC, muslim women are just cattle to them and cannot use the internets.
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