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05-10-2013, 05:28 PM
RE: Public Breastfeeding
Exposed breasts are so incredibly dangerous, it makes me feel much safer to go out into society knowing that there are these laws to protect me.

On the other hand everyone ought to have unrestricted access to guns because there aren't enough police around thus how can we protect ourselves when most women have breasts and are only a button or two away from exposing themselves to our susceptible and fragile eyes?
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05-10-2013, 05:36 PM
RE: Public Breastfeeding
I am having a really hard time seeing the connection between a person shitting/pissing and breastfeeding.

In the first situation, the person is removing waste (solid or fluid) from their body.

In the other instance, the mother is feeding a baby.
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05-10-2013, 05:43 PM
RE: Public Breastfeeding
Funny this should come up, because I was asked, "do you mind if I nurse" yesterday evening. Though taken just a bit off guard, I said, "naw; lil man's hungry, lil man's hungry. Won't bother me". If there had actually been any tension, it would have been gone after the mother made a joke about "beware those baby teeth", or something like that. It's really not that big a deal, folks!

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07-10-2013, 04:33 PM
RE: Public Breastfeeding
"Being shocked or offended doesn't make you right, nor is it a good reason to make something illegal"

First: I am not shocked of offended. It's the majority of the public who are shocked or offended. Whether they are right or not is a matter for serious debate. My point is that the minority can't, realistically, expect control the laws of the land. Not only is it not gonna happen! It SHOULDN'T happen! That's not democracy, is it? There's a minority of people out there, who would be happy to burn me at the steak for being an atheist! I'm happy they can't do that. If you want to be able to legally breast feed your infant, in public: You're going to have to win that argument in the public arena first.
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07-10-2013, 04:38 PM
RE: Public Breastfeeding
Women - "we want equal rights. We want the right to go topless in public as men do."
Since this happened, I haven't seen a single topless woman in public. And now they've changed their minds again. Awesome
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07-10-2013, 06:46 PM
Public Breastfeeding
(05-10-2013 05:21 PM)TheGulegon Wrote:  
(05-10-2013 04:22 PM)amyb Wrote:  I think it's one area where nudists have it right: desensitization to nudity. The idea that you DON'T have to sexualize every body and every body part you see. I think the problem with many places (USA) is that people think body parts and nudity are so shocking that it causes these extreme responses.

Also, a man pissing in a waiting room is not the same as a mother breastfeeding. Trash cans are not for piss, and there are laws against exposing yourself in this way.


But also, I don't think there is a problem with a young girl knowing what a penis is. The problem is that some fucking psychopath is whipping it out in the doctor's office. When I was a kid, my parents bought me books that explained human anatomy. I knew what a penis was and how it worked. So I'd worry more about the man pulling his dick out's motives than I would with the idea that a young girl knows that men have penises. If it were my daughter, I'd call the fucking police and tell the daughter than the man is a creep. But I don't think I'd have to explain that men have penises to her. Nor do I think it would be too shocking to any child to learn that women have breasts and they sometimes feed babies with them, but that's an acceptable thing to do with a breast. Pissing in the waiting room is not acceptable.

which brings me to: by and large, it's ADULTS who have problems with breastfeeding, not kids. If you just tell a kid "that lady is feeding her baby," they will tend to accept that (until they've reached the age where they internalize their parents' idea that bodies are horrible and disgusting). It's usually adults that have a fit about it.


Also, you seem to think I said "natural" = "good," and I did not. I said there isn't a logical reason to be offended at the sight of a tit, even a fat woman's tit.

So tits get exempt, and penises don't? Sounds sexist Tongue There's just as much "natural" in going off to a designated area to urinate in a man-made toilet as there is peeing in a waste basket. I mean both urination & breast feeding have an equal lesson value in biology, but you could toss in a history lesson from the trashcan-pee if the guy's nice enough to rinse out & clean it after Tongue
"See daughter, before toilets people used 'chamber pots' to discard their body waste. There were even ones you placed under the butts of people who couldn't get out of bed so they could poo, & pee in their sleep" "eeyoooo" "yeah Shy "

Tongue I kid I kid Tongue

tits are ok as long as it is being sucked on
So if you want to take out your penis, it is OK as long as ...no wait...
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07-10-2013, 06:56 PM (This post was last modified: 07-10-2013 07:01 PM by GirlyMan.)
RE: Public Breastfeeding
I'd ask 'em to sell me some. That colostrum's some healthy nutritious shit right there. Tongue

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07-10-2013, 07:33 PM
RE: Public Breastfeeding
(07-10-2013 04:33 PM)Ameron1963 Wrote:  My point is that the minority can't, realistically, expect control the laws of the land. Not only is it not gonna happen! It SHOULDN'T happen! That's not democracy, is it?
I don't want a majority rules society. Instead I want an inclusive, tolerant and diverse society.
One where government intervenes only when necessary to support a stable society.
Thus I don't want Heavy Metal music outlawed even though the majority of people don't like it.
If it is not causing society issues then government butt out and leave each individual to make their own choices.

Can anyone explain why breastfeeding causes harm to society?
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07-10-2013, 07:34 PM
RE: Public Breastfeeding
(07-10-2013 06:56 PM)GirlyMan Wrote:  I'd ask 'em to sell me some. That colostrum's some healthy nutritious shit right there. Tongue

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07-10-2013, 09:39 PM (This post was last modified: 07-10-2013 09:45 PM by amyb.)
RE: Public Breastfeeding
Quote:tits are ok as long as it is being sucked on
So if you want to take out your penis, it is OK as long as ...no wait...
The analogy doesn't work, unless your dick makes milk and you're feeding a baby with it. Topless laws vary, but I'm pretty sure most places don't permit exposing of genitals in public.

Quote:Women - "we want equal rights. We want the right to go topless in public as men do."
Since this happened, I haven't seen a single topless woman in public. And now they've changed their minds again. Awesome
So you think every woman should be forced to go topless, whether she wants to or not? As with gay marriage, the option should be there, doesn't mean everyone has to do it.

Quote: If you want to be able to legally breast feed your infant, in public: You're going to have to win that argument in the public arena first.
I don't know where you're from, but it IS legal here already. In fact, in a lot of places, there are laws that you can't tell a woman to go do it elsewhere or cover up more.

Quote: It's the majority of the public who are shocked or offended. Whether they are right or not is a matter for serious debate.
If they see more of it, they will get desensitized and won't be as shocked or offended. Kind of how, back in the day, it was scandalous for a woman to show her ankles, and now it's not.

Quote:Can anyone explain why breastfeeding causes harm to society?
As far as I can tell, the arguments against are either:
1-Seeing a bit of tit is obscene, no one can handle seeing a bit of tit without losing their minds, and
2-what if fat women breastfeed? What if ugly women breastfeed?

Neither of which are good arguments, and both just show the immaturity of the onlooker. If you really have that strong a reaction to breasts (and ones with babies latched on!) then maybe you need to look at more porn to desensitize yourself or something. It's just a tit, for fuck's sake.
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