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29-03-2012, 10:34 AM
 
Pure Insanity! Simply hard to believe this is happening.
Pure FUCKING Insanity! Yeah, this woman killed her FIVE kids because of superstition and now it’s a good idea to her out of crazyville to attend a church…the very thing that drove her to kill in the 1st place.
She drowned them ONE by one…so by the 3rd kid, she was holding her own kids head under water as the bubbles slowly stopped.. and possibly she paused and thought that this was ‘still a good idea’. YEP, cuz she went on to child 4 and then 5. This crazy nut should be put in a dark cell to never see light again.
We are DeEVOLVING folks! This is just Fucking Nuts! To think there are doctors and a judge that thinks THIS is actually a good and reasonable idea. Why not give Charlie Manson access to a new group of gullible followers too, while we are at it?
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Andrea Yates, the Houston mom who in 2001 drowned her five young children one-by-one in the bathtub, might soon be allowed to leave the state psychiatric hospital where she is being treated for mental illness to attend church.
"She's been approved by a certain church to attend Sunday services, and I anticipate that that recommendation will be forthcoming from her doctors," Yates' attorney George Parnham told ABCNews.com. He would not name the church.
Parnham said he expects doctors at Kerrville State Hospital to file a letter to the state district court within 10 days recommending that Yates be granted a two-hour pass to attend church on Sundays, the first step toward a permanent release.
"I hope that little by little she will adapt to the outside world by taking baby steps," he said.
Yates was convicted of capital murder in 2002, but acquitted in 2006 after jurors found her not guilty by reason of insanity. The stay-at-home mom had a history of mental illness and suicide attempts before drowning Noah, 7, John, 5, Paul, 3, Luke 2, and Mary, 6 months, after her husband, Rusty, left for work.
Yates confessed to the killings after calling police to her home. A police video showed a wet sock in the hallway and the body of one of Yates' children faced down in the bathtub. The other four bodies were laid on a bed and covered with a sheet.
In tapes released to ABC News' "Primetime" in 2006, Yates said she drowned her children because she didn't want them to go to hell. Yates' defense team argued she was influenced by Michael Woroniecki, a preacher from Oregon.
"The church she requested to attend is 180 degrees different from the ramblings of that hell, fire and brimstone preacher," said Parnham. "She would just like to get back into a stable church whereby God and Christianity become a role in her life. There's nothing nefarious about that."
Experts testified that postpartum psychosis prevented Yates from knowing right from wrong. With treatment, the delusions and hallucinations cleared and Yates realized what she had done.
"There were six victims that day, and Andrea was one of them," said Parnham, describing Yates' devastation. "But she understands that mental illness was the prime mover that caused various things to take place. She understands, she grieves, she mourns and she memorializes [her children]."
Parnham said Yates makes cards and other crafts and sells them in the hospital gift shop. She sends the proceeds to the Yates Memorial Children's Fund, a charity founded by Parnham to fund women's mental health education.
While Yates' doctors may deem her ready to reenter society, the public may feel differently.
"We tend to keep people with pyschosis hospitalized a lot longer than we need to, partly because society is spooked by these individuals and judges tend to reflect those views," said Dr. Phil Resnick, director of forensic psychiatry at UH Case Medical Center in Cleveland. Resnick testified in both of Yates' trials in her defense. "States tend to be quite conservative in releasing people."
Resnick said he recently examined two women who murdered their children based on religious delusions.
"One said she didn't want to go back to church because she didn't want to be put back in that situation. The other woman felt religion was a very important way for her to cope," he said.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNew...d=16021269
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29-03-2012, 11:05 AM
RE: Pure Insanity! Simply hard to believe this is happening.
America is dumb.

Not only that, but since when do psych wards not have their own service? ours do.
So do our prisons, which is where she should be.

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29-03-2012, 03:32 PM
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(29-03-2012 10:34 AM)Denicio Wrote:  "I hope that little by little she will adapt to the outside world by taking baby steps," he said.
I hope she understands the difference between "steps" and "lives"
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29-03-2012, 03:36 PM
 
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(29-03-2012 03:32 PM)Stevil Wrote:  
(29-03-2012 10:34 AM)Denicio Wrote:  "I hope that little by little she will adapt to the outside world by taking baby steps," he said.
I hope she understands the difference between "steps" and "lives"
Yeah, i caught that. Of all the common sayings to use for this story, "Baby Steps" is possibly the worst choice of words.
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29-03-2012, 05:09 PM
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The name of the church was not released, but I did some investigating and found out the name.
"The Church of Insane Holy Mothers that Drown their Children"
They comfort each other in the "fact" that their children are in heaven now with Jesus.
The same Jesus that let them drown their children.
It all works out when you're nuts.
I wonder if she was "he" and axe murdered "his" kids could he go to church and would any church offer?

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29-03-2012, 05:26 PM
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Lets put Pope Benedict in charge of world contraception and Dracula in charge of the blood Bank. No
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29-03-2012, 06:38 PM
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(29-03-2012 05:26 PM)Mr Woof Wrote:  Lets put Pope Benedict in charge of world contraception and Dracula in charge of the blood Bank. No
In all fairness, it's better than putting the Pope in charge of prosecuting child abusers.

PS. That was intended as a humourous comment and was going to have a grinning face after it. Only after I typed it did I realise I couldn't bring myself to put the smilie. Damn the whole thing pisses me off so much Angry . I know I should be above it but I hope he dies a painful death for his actions.

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Ferdinand: We don't really say 'theist' in Alabama. Here, you're either a Christian, or you're from Afghanistan and we fucking hate you.
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Ferdinand: Everyone from British is so, like, fucking retarded.
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29-03-2012, 06:42 PM
RE: Pure Insanity! Simply hard to believe this is happening.
In what universe should a person like this ever be released back into society?
(at the very least she should be sterilized)

Church psychosis!!! We need more of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-r...%931964%29

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29-03-2012, 06:49 PM
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(29-03-2012 06:42 PM)aurora2020 Wrote:  In what universe should a person like this ever be released back into society?
(at the very least she should be sterilized)

Church psychosis!!! We need more of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-r...%931964%29
To be honest I disagree. The more you fight it the more ammunition you give churches to claim they're being persecuted. Then you just end up giving them sympathy from people who normally wouldn't get involved.

I think we need a big campaign to teach children simple truths about the world early on and to encourage free-thought. That way slowly but surely we can work towards a more enlightened society that values people who ask questions as opposed to people who blindly follow whoever they're told to.

Call me cheesy but I see the change to a more secular world as humanity stepping through a door from darkness to light. I'd rather we waited a little longer and stepped through the door willingly than a couple of us dragging the rest through kicking and screaming the whole way.

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Ferdinand: We don't really say 'theist' in Alabama. Here, you're either a Christian, or you're from Afghanistan and we fucking hate you.
Worst
Ferdinand: Everyone from British is so, like, fucking retarded.
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29-03-2012, 06:58 PM
RE: Pure Insanity! Simply hard to believe this is happening.
Here's how I see it. If I had decided at some point to drown my children, it wouldn't have been because a god, or his teachings, told me to. I would be in prison, period...no field trips to church or anywhere else.

Why is she getting special treatment all around because of religion? That's screwed up in a major way.

She should never see the light of day. Let her pray in her cell...and I agree with point mentioned...there are no services, no chaplain, no damn TV church services that she could be a part of without turning her loose?

If religion is going to save/help her...why didn't it help/save her poor children?

AAARRRGGGGHHHH!

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