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19-05-2014, 07:36 AM
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Can an atheist believe in God and this not be a contradiction?
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19-05-2014, 07:42 AM
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(19-05-2014 07:36 AM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  Can an atheist believe in God and this not be a contradiction?

No.
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19-05-2014, 07:45 AM
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(19-05-2014 07:42 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  
(19-05-2014 07:36 AM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  Can an atheist believe in God and this not be a contradiction?

No.

Why?
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19-05-2014, 07:47 AM
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The definition of an atheist is someone who does not hold a belief in the existence of God or gods.

So what you are asking is

"Can someone who does not believe in God believe in God and this not be a contradiction?"

... or to make it more succinct:

"Can an atheist not be an atheist and this not be a contradiction?"
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19-05-2014, 07:47 AM
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(19-05-2014 07:45 AM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(19-05-2014 07:42 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  No.

Why?

Because by definition atheist means no belief in any gods.

What are you looking for, theists who believe in science, or what?

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19-05-2014, 07:55 AM
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(19-05-2014 07:47 AM)Mathilda Wrote:  The definition of an atheist is someone who does not hold a belief in the existence of God or gods.

So what you are asking is

"Can someone who does not believe in God believe in God and this not be a contradiction?"

... or to make it more succinct:

"Can an atheist not be an atheist and this not be a contradiction?"

So it is a contradiction because of how atheism is defined. Is that correct?
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19-05-2014, 07:57 AM
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(19-05-2014 07:47 AM)Dom Wrote:  
(19-05-2014 07:45 AM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  Why?

Because by definition atheist means no belief in any gods.

What are you looking for, theists who believe in science, or what?

Ok this is what I just asked Mathilda.

Now, who or what determines what the word atheism means?
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19-05-2014, 08:00 AM
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Can a theist not believe in god and not be a contradiction? - WTF

Why do you all play along with the games of this jackass? Is this going to be another thread with 200 posts as to what being an athiest means? If this twit cannot get it by now then just tell him to go pound sand.

God damnit this dolt is like a virus in these forums that sucks all of our resources in dealing with it! Can't we just find a cure?

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19-05-2014, 08:08 AM
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(19-05-2014 07:57 AM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  
(19-05-2014 07:47 AM)Dom Wrote:  Because by definition atheist means no belief in any gods.

What are you looking for, theists who believe in science, or what?

Ok this is what I just asked Mathilda.

Now, who or what determines what the word atheism means?

The same thing that determines the meaning of almost every other word in the English language: Common usage.

You're obviously building up to something. Cut to the chase already.
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19-05-2014, 08:10 AM
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(19-05-2014 07:57 AM)Jeremy E Walker Wrote:  Now, who or what determines what the word atheism means?

Doesn't matter. If you say that the word "atheism" should mean something else then it means that your question is dishonest. If you were being honest you would use what you think "atheism" should mean instead of the term "atheism".

Your question would then be

"Can <some type of person that Jeremy thinks exists> believe in God and this not be a contradiction?"

All it reveals is your intellectual dishonesty.
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