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26-03-2013, 03:02 PM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2013 11:07 PM by Doctor X.)
RE: Question about the "J", "E", "P", "R", "D", and the "changed Old Testament".
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26-03-2013, 03:10 PM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2013 11:08 PM by Doctor X.)
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26-03-2013, 09:56 PM
RE: Question about the "J", "E", "P", "R", "D", and the "changed Old Testament".
Bucky & Doctor X,

Some of your content might be clearer and more compelling if you included references to the journal articles that make the specific claims are you repeating.

Bucky,

You cite:
1. Wikpedia, which cites a BBC documentary plus two books in its "In Israel and Judah" section
2. The Huffington Post, which cites Time and Discovery
3. Discovery (the article cited by Huffington), which apparently relies on interviews and does not cite any papers
4. newworldencyclopeida.org - which seems to also rely on books rather than papers

How would you suggest a lay person such as PJ go about assessing the credibility of individual cited book titles, or assessing what the academic consensus looks like, here?

Give me your argument in the form of a published paper, and then we can start to talk.
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26-03-2013, 10:07 PM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2013 11:08 PM by Doctor X.)
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26-03-2013, 11:03 PM (This post was last modified: 26-03-2013 11:16 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Question about the "J", "E", "P", "R", "D", and the "changed Old Testament".
(26-03-2013 09:56 PM)Hafnof Wrote:  Bucky & Doctor X,

Some of your content might be clearer and more compelling if you included references to the journal articles that make the specific claims are you repeating.

Bucky,

You cite:
1. Wikpedia, which cites a BBC documentary plus two books in its "In Israel and Judah" section
2. The Huffington Post, which cites Time and Discovery
3. Discovery (the article cited by Huffington), which apparently relies on interviews and does not cite any papers
4. newworldencyclopeida.org - which seems to also rely on books rather than papers

How would you suggest a lay person such as PJ go about assessing the credibility of individual cited book titles, or assessing what the academic consensus looks like, here?

See : http://archive.archaeology.org/0503/abst...srael.html




























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26-03-2013, 11:27 PM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2013 11:08 PM by Doctor X.)
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26-03-2013, 11:39 PM (This post was last modified: 26-03-2013 11:47 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Question about the "J", "E", "P", "R", "D", and the "changed Old Testament".
We know, completely independently from the the Bible, that in Babylonian myth system, Yahweh, the god of the armies, (the war god), was El Elyon's 70th son.
http://www.websitesonadime.com/ffwic/yahwehhistory.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh
http://www.evolutionofgod.net/q/israelite
http://news.discovery.com/history/religi...110318.htm
https://www.google.com/search?q=yahweh's...66&bih=650
http://wifeofyahweh.com/
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/juda...46KR0IAULR
http://www.studyworld.com/newsite/report...322764.htm

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26-03-2013, 11:53 PM
RE: Question about the "J", "E", "P", "R", "D", and the "changed Old Testament".
(26-03-2013 09:56 PM)Hafnof Wrote:  Bucky & Doctor X,

Some of your content might be clearer and more compelling if you included references to the journal articles that make the specific claims are you repeating.

Bucky,

You cite:
1. Wikpedia, which cites a BBC documentary plus two books in its "In Israel and Judah" section
2. The Huffington Post, which cites Time and Discovery
3. Discovery (the article cited by Huffington), which apparently relies on interviews and does not cite any papers
4. newworldencyclopeida.org - which seems to also rely on books rather than papers

How would you suggest a lay person such as PJ go about assessing the credibility of individual cited book titles, or assessing what the academic consensus looks like, here?

Fucking hafnof. Hadda get 'em started. Place is starting to look like homework. Dodgy

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27-03-2013, 06:58 AM
RE: Question about the "J", "E", "P", "R", "D", and the "changed Old Testament".
I missed your other thread, sorry, if you'd like to post a note here. I have a BA in Religion and am not unaware of JDEP Theory, Q Theory, Markan Priority, the imminent eschaton "fallacy", etc. But your comments are unacceptable to me as I am aware of cultural and historical context, canon formation, and etc. You're the one, Doctor, who seems unaware of the Bible text, posting snippets from a verse here and there to "prove" your points. I began to read the iconography book online, by the way. So far it has described Egyptian iconography in Israel--nor would I be shocked to find multiple gods in Israel--since they've had an estimated 42 nations sitting on their territory over the centuries. In Bible times, Egypt, Assyria, Babylonia, Rome, Macedonia and Persia... no, the main "proofs" you've given are all appeals to authority, and then you have circular, "We know this is because E this and P that..." when there is to date ZERO empirical evidence for any of the documentary hypotheses. Zero. I've asked you before for texts showing the before and after changes scholars claim as "fact" and ask you again now. PS. Footnotes written by you or other PhD candidates aren't empirical evidence of any textual changes. Thanks.
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27-03-2013, 07:42 AM (This post was last modified: 05-04-2013 11:08 PM by Doctor X.)
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