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08-03-2013, 06:03 PM
RE: Question about the "J", "E", "P", "R", "D", and the "changed Old Testament".
(08-03-2013 04:02 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  It's called the Documentary Hypothesis. No one questions it, or the fact that the Hebrews were polytheistic. It's been around for almost a hundred years. in the 1950's William Foxwell Albright edited "The Interpreters Bible", in which 132 CONSERVATIVE Christian seminary professors and scholars all signed off on it. It's never been "refuted" by archaeology", as PleasyJeeby lied. He's just too undeucated to know. Read Dr. Richard Elliott Friedman's "Who Wrote The Bible", or "How The Bible Became a Book", by the head of the department at UCLA, Schniedewind. Two emeinent scholars will tell you all about it. It's a fact that the traditions were combined, and no real scholar questions it. There was no Bible until Ezra brought the Torah of Moses back from the Exile, which is why there is so much of Babylonian mythology all through Genesis.
http://www.jhsonline.org/reviews/review172.htm
The First commandment PROVES they were polytheistic. "No other gods before me". Archaeology has proven Yahweh had a wife, (Ashura) who was worshiped along with him.
http://news.discovery.com/history/religi...110318.htm
PleasyJeeby is just a liar. He thinks lying serves his cause.
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...olden+Calf
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...ment+texts
And it's not a "changed" OT, it's THE OT. It never existed BEFORE it was assembled by the redactor. It's all myth until Deborah. There was no Abraham. He was a myth. Archaeology has proven that, as well as the fact that his family (sons) were myth. Second Isaiah finally insisted on monotheism AFTER the Exile.
http://www.jhsonline.org/Articles/article_48.pdf



This is garbage. The first 15 seconds equates the God of Islam with the God of the Bible. Any Muslim will tell you they do not believe Jesus is God, they do not believe in the Holy Spirit, and believe that Muhammad is the greatest prophet. Christians likewise reject Allah and Muhammad's teachings.
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08-03-2013, 06:46 PM
RE: Question about the "J", "E", "P", "R", "D", and the "changed Old Testament".
(08-03-2013 06:03 PM)mrbuddy4413 Wrote:  
(08-03-2013 04:02 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  It's called the Documentary Hypothesis. No one questions it, or the fact that the Hebrews were polytheistic. It's been around for almost a hundred years. in the 1950's William Foxwell Albright edited "The Interpreters Bible", in which 132 CONSERVATIVE Christian seminary professors and scholars all signed off on it. It's never been "refuted" by archaeology", as PleasyJeeby lied. He's just too undeucated to know. Read Dr. Richard Elliott Friedman's "Who Wrote The Bible", or "How The Bible Became a Book", by the head of the department at UCLA, Schniedewind. Two emeinent scholars will tell you all about it. It's a fact that the traditions were combined, and no real scholar questions it. There was no Bible until Ezra brought the Torah of Moses back from the Exile, which is why there is so much of Babylonian mythology all through Genesis.
http://www.jhsonline.org/reviews/review172.htm
The First commandment PROVES they were polytheistic. "No other gods before me". Archaeology has proven Yahweh had a wife, (Ashura) who was worshiped along with him.
http://news.discovery.com/history/religi...110318.htm
PleasyJeeby is just a liar. He thinks lying serves his cause.
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...olden+Calf
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/...ment+texts
And it's not a "changed" OT, it's THE OT. It never existed BEFORE it was assembled by the redactor. It's all myth until Deborah. There was no Abraham. He was a myth. Archaeology has proven that, as well as the fact that his family (sons) were myth. Second Isaiah finally insisted on monotheism AFTER the Exile.
http://www.jhsonline.org/Articles/article_48.pdf



This is garbage. The first 15 seconds equates the God of Islam with the God of the Bible. Any Muslim will tell you they do not believe Jesus is God, they do not believe in the Holy Spirit, and believe that Muhammad is the greatest prophet. Christians likewise reject Allah and Muhammad's teachings.
Which indicates your own ignorance, blas, since he's not talking about Jesus or Mohammed...

E 2 = (mc 2)2 + (pc )2
614C → 714N + e + ̅νe
2 K(s) + 2 H2O(l) → 2 KOH(aq) + H2 (g) + 196 kJ/mol
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08-03-2013, 07:04 PM
RE: Question about the "J", "E", "P", "R", "D", and the "changed Old Testament".
(08-03-2013 06:46 PM)Phaedrus Wrote:  
(08-03-2013 06:03 PM)mrbuddy4413 Wrote:  This is garbage. The first 15 seconds equates the God of Islam with the God of the Bible. Any Muslim will tell you they do not believe Jesus is God, they do not believe in the Holy Spirit, and believe that Muhammad is the greatest prophet. Christians likewise reject Allah and Muhammad's teachings.
Which indicates your own ignorance, blas, since he's not talking about Jesus or Mohammed...
Jesus is not God to Christians? Who is ignorant?
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08-03-2013, 07:39 PM (This post was last modified: 08-03-2013 07:54 PM by Bucky Ball.)
RE: Question about the "J", "E", "P", "R", "D", and the "changed Old Testament".
(08-03-2013 05:56 PM)mrbuddy4413 Wrote:  
(08-03-2013 05:20 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  The first time the Torah of Moses appears, is when Ezra brought it back from Exile, during which the ®edactor and (P)riests assembled it. Read the Book of Ezra. There is a festival, in which he introduces it. Before that, there WAS no Bible, or OT, or any parts of it.
Moses wrote his books during the 40 years in the desert. This is where the OT started.

Wrong. No scholar says that. Too bad. The "test of time shit" is just that. This Mr. Buddy's level of ignorance is astounding. Moses wrote nothing in the desert, and there are very good reasons why scholars know, (which obviously you are not), that did not happen, including the fact that the end of the Pentateuch talk about HIS own death and burial. Go get an education, buddy-troll. There was no sojourn in the desert, and no Exodus, (at least the way it's told), and no Moses. They made it all up. You tell us anyone, ever, who writes a book describing their OWN death and burial.

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08-03-2013, 07:50 PM
RE: Question about the "J", "E", "P", "R", "D", and the "changed Old Testament".
(08-03-2013 07:04 PM)mrbuddy4413 Wrote:  
(08-03-2013 06:46 PM)Phaedrus Wrote:  Which indicates your own ignorance, blas, since he's not talking about Jesus or Mohammed...
Jesus is not God to Christians? Who is ignorant?

edit. Troll is too ignorant to even respond to.

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08-03-2013, 07:56 PM
RE: Question about the "J", "E", "P", "R", "D", and the "changed Old Testament".
(08-03-2013 07:39 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(08-03-2013 05:56 PM)mrbuddy4413 Wrote:  Moses wrote his books during the 40 years in the desert. This is where the OT started.

Wrong. No scholar says that. Too bad. The "test of time shit" is just that. This Mr. Buddy's level of ignorance is astounding. Moses wrote nothing in the desert, and there are very good reasons why scholars know, (which obviously you are not), that did not happen, including the fact that the end of the Pentateuch talk about HIS own death and burial. Go get an education, buddy-troll.
Are you angry about something or just generally rude as a principle? This is accepted theology by every Biblical scholar I've ever read or known and I've been a Christian my whole life. Any scholars you cite are likely non-believers who are biased. Give me a scholar who believes that Jesus rose from the dead and is alive at the right hand of God who does not believe Moses wrote the beginning of the OT. Joshua or anyone else who was there could have easily wrote about his death.

If you would like to discuss in a civilized manner that is fine, if not, don't bother responding.
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08-03-2013, 07:58 PM
RE: Question about the "J", "E", "P", "R", "D", and the "changed Old Testament".
(08-03-2013 07:50 PM)Bucky Ball Wrote:  
(08-03-2013 07:04 PM)mrbuddy4413 Wrote:  Jesus is not God to Christians? Who is ignorant?

edit. Troll is too ignorant to even respond to.
Classic response for the weak.
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08-03-2013, 08:01 PM
RE: Question about the "J", "E", "P", "R", "D", and the "changed Old Testament".
mrbuddy4413 is a sockpuppet of blasphemilious_VI / the_thinking_of_atheists / syntheticaprior / mr.t

I presume the reason he isn't banned yet is that he (finally) figured out how to work a proxy so his IP doesn't match. But he signed up directly after his latest account (the_thinking_of_atheists) was banned and the first topic of substance he posted on was the same thread as he'd been trolling before. I critiqued his sockpuppet technique last time (lousy) so he's trying to do a better job, but it's still clearly the same twelve year old.

E 2 = (mc 2)2 + (pc )2
614C → 714N + e + ̅νe
2 K(s) + 2 H2O(l) → 2 KOH(aq) + H2 (g) + 196 kJ/mol
It works, bitches.
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08-03-2013, 08:03 PM
RE: Question about the "J", "E", "P", "R", "D", and the "changed Old Testament".
(08-03-2013 08:01 PM)Phaedrus Wrote:  mrbuddy4413 is a sockpuppet of blasphemilious_VI / the_thinking_of_atheists / syntheticaprior / mr.t

I presume the reason he isn't banned yet is that he (finally) figured out how to work a proxy so his IP doesn't match. But he signed up directly after his latest account (the_thinking_of_atheists) was banned and the first topic of substance he posted on was the same thread as he'd been trolling before. I critiqued his sockpuppet technique last time (lousy) so he's trying to do a better job, but it's still clearly the same twelve year old.
Is this not a forum for debate? Opposing views not allowed? Why the hostility?
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08-03-2013, 08:06 PM
RE: Question about the "J", "E", "P", "R", "D", and the "changed Old Testament".
I don't know why you were banned originally, but sockpuppet accounts are against the rules of the forum, so by creating the blasphemilious_VI and the_thinking_of_atheists accounts you were breaking that little service agreement thing you click when you sign up (also you were breaking the law by clicking the "I am over 13" button when you are in fact 12). That service agreement means you're bound by the rules of this forum and can be banned for breaking those rules.

So bye-bye. Again.

E 2 = (mc 2)2 + (pc )2
614C → 714N + e + ̅νe
2 K(s) + 2 H2O(l) → 2 KOH(aq) + H2 (g) + 196 kJ/mol
It works, bitches.
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