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04-05-2014, 07:57 AM
Question regarding meditation
I just had a quick question regarding meditation. I read that meditation can reduce stress and boost self-control ( by self control i mean for example the ability to get up early and go for a run instead of turning around and continue to sleep). That sounds great , but at the same time it sounds like woo-woo.so my questions is :

1)Does meditation actually work (does it benefit you , and if it does, in what way).

2)if it does work, do you know any good books which explain how to meditate?

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04-05-2014, 08:21 AM
RE: Question regarding meditation
In my very personal opinion, meditation is a substitute for nature.

I can sit outdoors someplace that is devoid of humans, and just gaze around me and let my mind go blank. It is most relaxing, and I feel refreshed when I get up and move on. Sometimes I get great ideas that way.

Most can relate to meditation when they think about gazing at the ocean. I think the most important factor in achieving this without formal meditation is the absence of others.

Formal meditation is supposed to allow you to do this anywhere.

I don't think it's woo, I think it's a natural state that we don't get to enjoy much in today's rushed life. Removing yourself from all the stimuli around you for a while is just relaxing.

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04-05-2014, 08:27 AM
RE: Question regarding meditation
Meditation: purposefully relaxing and clearing your mind. Of course it helps relieve stress! Whether or not it can motivate you to run in the morning... well that's debatable.

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04-05-2014, 08:54 AM
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I find that diet (personal fuel in-take; alcohol etc.) impacts my energy / lethargy levels more directly.
Specifically, too much wheat (gluten) the day before and I struggle to get out of my pit in the morning.

As an introvert in a job that puts me in front of people, I need self-time to re-energise. Socialising drains me.

I wouldn't call my 'quiet time' meditation but it has the desired effect.

Contact Luminon. He's a expert on the subject.

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04-05-2014, 09:41 AM
RE: Question regarding meditation
(04-05-2014 08:54 AM)DLJ Wrote:  I find that diet (personal fuel in-take; alcohol etc.) impacts my energy / lethargy levels more directly.
Specifically, too much wheat (gluten) the day before and I struggle to get out of my pit in the morning.

As an introvert in a job that puts me in front of people, I need self-time to re-energise. Socialising drains me.

I wouldn't call my 'quiet time' meditation but it has the desired effect.

Contact Luminon. He's a expert on the subject.

I am an extrovert, but exactly like you in that my job put me in front of lots of people, and I needed time to re-energize after that. Socializing drains me, too.

I think it is something other than introvert/extrovert that causes that.

For the OP:

I am not sure that meditation is the way to develop the self discipline to go running every morning. Maybe there are some versions of it that do, I don't know.

However, running is addictive and once you do get into the habit, you can't quit even when your back and joints are falling apart from the constant impact. This has happened to a lot of runners I have known for years. At first it helps fitness, but eventually it wears the body in unpleasant ways, and people still crave the state of mind it induces...

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11-05-2014, 05:28 AM
RE: Question regarding meditation
(04-05-2014 07:57 AM)Insanity Wrote:  1)Does meditation actually work (does it benefit you , and if it does, in what way).

2)if it does work, do you know any good books which explain how to meditate?

Yes, I think meditation works. But, maybe not as the kind of brain-hack that you're describing. For me, it's worked as more of a relaxation technique, calming me mentally and physically (slowing my breathing, etc).

If you want to get into the habit of being more disciplined in the morning, I'd suggest becoming more disciplined at night. I started out going to the gym and going for runs after work. Eventually, I was able to get into a rhythm where - and, to this day, it's not easy! - I was able to shift my work out to earlier times. First, I turned evening runs into lunchtime runs. After a little while, I started setting my alarm earlier and running in the morning.

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11-05-2014, 05:32 AM
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(04-05-2014 08:54 AM)DLJ Wrote:  As an introvert in a job that puts me in front of people, I need self-time to re-energise. Socialising drains me.

I'm right there with you. I think that's what got me into running in the morning. I knew that nobody would want to hit the pavement with me at 6am. And just like that, I get 45 minutes of uninterrupted, blissful alone time a few times a week.

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11-05-2014, 06:14 AM
RE: Question regarding meditation
(11-05-2014 05:32 AM)Virgo Supercluster Wrote:  ...
running
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Hang on. I'm Googling that.

@Dom, I think you are an introvert (by definition). An extrovert is someone who is energised by socialising.

This is a bit of derail, but hey, that's what we do around here and the OP hasn't been back here to pick up their property (so we can claim it)... but... I was wondering what people thought about this ...

One of my flatmates (and also my ex-wifey) is a shy extrovert (gets energy from crowds but lacks the confidence to approach people) whereas I am (and I suspect Dom, too, is) a confident introvert... which may be a result of the work that we've found ourselves doing or perhaps the cause.

This only really matters when it comes to e.g. choices of restaurants i.e. we do not enjoy the experience when the other person chooses.

It follows then that the logic goes like this:

P1: My flatmate and my ex-wife are shy extroverts
P2: My hot-chick flatmate and my ex-model-ex-wife are very attractive and popular
C: Shy extroverts are HAWT!

QED

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11-05-2014, 07:24 AM
RE: Question regarding meditation
Not sure if meditation will get you up to run, (get a dog that drags you out of bed if you need that), but both meditation and running have similar effects on your brain :
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...119505118T

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11-05-2014, 07:56 AM
RE: Question regarding meditation
(11-05-2014 06:14 AM)DLJ Wrote:  
(11-05-2014 05:32 AM)Virgo Supercluster Wrote:  ...
running
...

Hang on. I'm Googling that.

@Dom, I think you are an introvert (by definition). An extrovert is someone who is energised by socialising.

This is a bit of derail, but hey, that's what we do around here and the OP hasn't been back here to pick up their property (so we can claim it)... but... I was wondering what people thought about this ...

One of my flatmates (and also my ex-wifey) is a shy extrovert (gets energy from crowds but lacks the confidence to approach people) whereas I am (and I suspect Dom, too, is) a confident introvert... which may be a result of the work that we've found ourselves doing or perhaps the cause.

This only really matters when it comes to e.g. choices of restaurants i.e. we do not enjoy the experience when the other person chooses.

It follows then that the logic goes like this:

P1: My flatmate and my ex-wife are shy extroverts
P2: My hot-chick flatmate and my ex-model-ex-wife are very attractive and popular
C: Shy extroverts are HAWT!

QED

Didn't see this until just now...

In a way socializing does energize me - when I get back to my room after mingling with people, I am inspired and tend to do a lot of writing..

I prefer picking my own food, but - how does that relate?

I tend to get along with most anyone, I can sit down to dinner with anyone and have an animated, pleasant experience...

But I love my alone time. As did my husband, which made for a very good marriage.

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