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11-05-2014, 08:01 AM
RE: Question regarding meditation
(04-05-2014 08:54 AM)DLJ Wrote:  I find that diet (personal fuel in-take; alcohol etc.) impacts my energy / lethargy levels more directly.
Specifically, too much wheat (gluten) the day before and I struggle to get out of my pit in the morning.

As an introvert in a job that puts me in front of people, I need self-time to re-energise. Socialising drains me.

I wouldn't call my 'quiet time' meditation but it has the desired effect.

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I have needed to have 'me time' for as long as I can remember. If I go too long without it I get nervous and generally feel unsettled. I am baffled by my daughters who seem to need to have people around them constantly.

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14-05-2014, 04:22 PM
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Meditation - I tried this many years ago soon after my Catholic apostasy when I temporarily veered into new age distractions for awhile. It was good for relaxation, but I never felt I could quite get the hang of it because I didn't reach any state that seemed different than ordinary relaxation. Supposedly, you can give yourself "affirmations" during meditation - much like post-hypnotic suggestions - that could potentially help with many things - possibly like getting you out of bed. However, I can't say it ever worked for me so it could be just woo.

Running - If you really want to motivate yourself to run, set a big goal. I have never been a morning person and getting up tends to be a chore, but the morning is the only consistent time I can make available. Two years ago, I set a goal of running a marathon by January this year. Then I immediately signed up for a half marathon around the 1 year mark. Once you have committed to a race and spent money on it (it cost $75 to register for the race), it really helps with sticking to it. After I ran the half marathon, I immediately signed up for the full marathon which was last January. That one cost $170 and so it was even more motivating. Smile But, by then, the running was self-motivating because I had already invested a year of my time and wasn't going to just throw it all away. (And yes, I did finish the marathon.)

Introversion/Energy - I am a lifelong introvert. I have become more social with age, but any socializing drains me. I definitely need alone time to recover. Lately, with my kids approaching their teens, life has gotten very busy with activities both at home and outside the home. I have had many extended periods with little alone time and it wears on me. I definitely think there is some truth to the idea that introverts have a need to recharge because it's true for me and I also saw an article about that several years ago. Fortunately for me, the marathon training helped because I do run alone most of the time.

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16-05-2014, 11:24 AM
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I was thinking about what I wrote above and realized I should amend it. I wasn't suggesting that you necessarily set your sights on a marathon. I have no idea how much you run or any of your other circumstances and it's possible that a much smaller race - say, a 5k - could be a large goal for you. The main point is to make a commitment by enrolling in something. The larger the "something", the better, but it also has to be realistic for you or it will be too overwhelming to be motivating. So, if a marathon works for you, great, but if a 5k or 10k are more realistic, then those are just as great.

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16-05-2014, 01:05 PM
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Hello Dom, how are you?

(04-05-2014 08:21 AM)Dom Wrote:  In my very personal opinion, meditation is a substitute for nature.

I can sit outdoors someplace that is devoid of humans, and just gaze around me and let my mind go blank.
I'd like to know what you understand by "meditation" and by "nature".

I realise this might simply be a translation problem so please correct me if I am mistaken, but even though I agree in that some place outdoors devoid of humans is often great for thinking calmly about any subject, if there is something that the word "meditation" suggests to me, it is not letting my mind go blank but rather keep it focused on the subject I am meditating about. Can the word be used in this way in English?

To me, using the word as a synonym for relaxation providing nothing but benefits seems a bit woo because the benefits depend enormously on the subject being meditated. I used to have a cousin that carefully meditated about the possibility of bringing his own life to an end, and it turned out to be fatal for his health, although I respect his choice.

But even if I may not agree with the word, I think I agree with the notion. Whenever I've found myself surrounded by no houses and beyond the reach of any engine's noise, thoughts seem to have flowed more easily. I sometimes envy those who lived 20,000 years ago, although I most often don't.

I hope you'll have a very meditative weekend, in your sense of the word.
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16-05-2014, 01:57 PM
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(04-05-2014 07:57 AM)Insanity Wrote:  I just had a quick question regarding meditation. I read that meditation can reduce stress and boost self-control ( by self control i mean for example the ability to get up early and go for a run instead of turning around and continue to sleep). That sounds great , but at the same time it sounds like woo-woo.so my questions is :

1)Does meditation actually work (does it benefit you , and if it does, in what way).

2)if it does work, do you know any good books which explain how to meditate?

thanks Smile

1.) Yes, meditation can reduce stress. Meditation is a device to help the mind just stop. So it can then, focus on something else. So yes, in that regard, it can help one learn to "exercise" self control. (kind of)

I don't know though... you may be confusing self control with self discipline. Self control and self discipline are not always the same things; I have a shit ton of self control but am quite slack in self discipline with certain things. So, yea.

2.) I personally shy away from classes or videos and would stick with a book if instruction is necessary. A very basic book with a few simple exercises will do.

Stick with the notion that meditation is essentially a quieting of the mind - a refocusing exercise. Meditation helps refocus the mind to blank... when the mind strays ... pull it back to blank.
"Meditation instruction" fills in the blank for you (visualize a word or actually look at a spot on the wall, etc.,.). If you do it on your own - you fill in the blank - you might simply imagine the mind as being in a blank or empty space.

One thing I do not recommend of "common meditation exercises" - don't stare at a candle flame - you'll temporarily burn an annoying "hole" into your retina. When a focus becomes stressful - the purpose has been defeated.

Good luck with energizing and/or relaxing... or whatever you are trying to accomplish. Thumbsup

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17-05-2014, 01:39 PM
RE: Question regarding meditation
(16-05-2014 01:57 PM)kim Wrote:  
(04-05-2014 07:57 AM)Insanity Wrote:  I just had a quick question regarding meditation. I read that meditation can reduce stress and boost self-control ( by self control i mean for example the ability to get up early and go for a run instead of turning around and continue to sleep). That sounds great , but at the same time it sounds like woo-woo.so my questions is :

1)Does meditation actually work (does it benefit you , and if it does, in what way).

2)if it does work, do you know any good books which explain how to meditate?

thanks Smile

1.) Yes, meditation can reduce stress. Meditation is a device to help the mind just stop. So it can then, focus on something else. So yes, in that regard, it can help one learn to "exercise" self control. (kind of)

I don't know though... you may be confusing self control with self discipline. Self control and self discipline are not always the same things; I have a shit ton of self control but am quite slack in self discipline with certain things. So, yea.

2.) I personally shy away from classes or videos and would stick with a book if instruction is necessary. A very basic book with a few simple exercises will do.

Stick with the notion that meditation is essentially a quieting of the mind - a refocusing exercise. Meditation helps refocus the mind to blank... when the mind strays ... pull it back to blank.
"Meditation instruction" fills in the blank for you (visualize a word or actually look at a spot on the wall, etc.,.). If you do it on your own - you fill in the blank - you might simply imagine the mind as being in a blank or empty space.

One thing I do not recommend of "common meditation exercises" - don't stare at a candle flame - you'll temporarily burn an annoying "hole" into your retina. When a focus becomes stressful - the purpose has been defeated.

Good luck with energizing and/or relaxing... or whatever you are trying to accomplish. Thumbsup

I started meditating recently because my brain just won't stop twirling around with stuff in it. It's like a damn clothes dryer that never quite get the clothes dry so it's ever running, always spinning, like a perpetual motion machine. I started taking yoga and my brain has slowed down but still isn't quiet so I meditate without doing yoga, just meditate. Even though it was mentioned to not look at a candle flame I find the candle helps to calm my mind completely, though I don't look directly at the flame but at the glow around it with my eyes partly closed. I listen to calming music. I'm getting better but I think it's going to take several more months or maybe another year to quiet my mind. So far I can quiet my mind for about 15 seconds then thoughts invade the quiet and I'm off and thinking again.

This has been a problem I've had for the last 20 years. It started with the birth of my first child. I think I should call it "worried parent syndrome". It's really annoying.

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